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major7th

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Just added a triaxis and 2:90 to my Mark IV G system rig and is great!

Except.......

I have a very audible ghost note coming from the Triaxis! Somwhere between a 5th and 7th lower than the Note im playing. It's there straight from the pre amp to the PA, to the 2:90, to the 4x12, to the 1x12.

I've changed all tubes to new.

I called boogie, they never heard of it.

Any ideas?
 
I did a search and came up with the following;

http://www.ehow.com/how_6047274_test-adjust-tube-amplifiers.html
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Include an inspection of the capacitors and resistors in the annual tuneup. This is another job for a professional. Capacitors are filters that look like metal tubes in the back of the amplifier. Worn out capacitors will have a detrimental effect on the sound quality of the output stage of the amplifier. As they weaken and age their ability to filter extraneous noise becomes less and less. You will hear strange harmonics called "ghost notes" or "following tones." Resistors wear out from heat and high voltage. They need to be inspected as well.

http://www.mercurymagnetics.com/pages/_misc/FAQ.htm#Ghost_notes
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Dealing with Ghost Notes:

-- Doug Roccaforte, www.RoccaforteAmps.com

Many amplifiers are prone to "ghost notes." It helps to know what kind of amp we're talking about.

Certain capacitor brands, like F+T, LCR have high leakage current. Other capacitors for coupling have ESR problems, sometimes caused by the physical construction, and lead type. Pure copper leads reduce this, and tubular capacitors are less prone. This is because they do not have any flat sides for the signal to bounce off of.

Some amplifiers like Fender Black/Silverface models that have the ghost note issue can be reduced by cutting the phase inverter "output" coupling capacitor values in half.

Others generally are just suffering from old, or leaky filters. Vintage amplifiers like Vox AC30s have very low filtering, I believe this was not because of design, but more as an economical approach to save money. The same is true with many amplifiers designed in the 1950s. Increasing the filtering can cure the ghost note problem.

With Marshalls there are two ways to help cancel this out:

Install a luf 600-1000V non-polar plastic capacitor across the last decoupling electrolytic in the line. This is the last filter, which filters the supply for the preamp. The capacitor will be wired to "by-pass" this filter, one lead to ground, the other to the capacitor lead. 

Increase the filtering. On 50 watt models, it seems to take another 50mf across the main B+, and another 50mf for the screen supply. 

For 100 watt Marshalls expect to add another 100-150mf across the main B+, and at least another 100mf for the screen supply. Now, the amp will be stiffer on bass notes, if not acceptable, you can add anywhere from a 100-200 ohm 209 watt resistor in series with the output transformer center tap, this will give back a looser feel.

I was just reading about how the wave clips, compresses, and shifts when you have bad preamp tubes as well on a site - which I can not find now - grrr

Dennis
 
This is an old topic but did you ever get this sorted out? I am having ghost notes prominently around A chords through my rig. I have an older Triaxis/2:90 and thought it was the 2:90 so I replaced it with a newer one that is in in better shape but it's still happening, so might be the Triaxis. I have changed all the tubes and it is still there too. It also is much more prominent on my guitars with an EMG 81 in the bridge and much less on the ones with an EMG 57. I'm in Indiana and don't want to spend a couple of months without either one to send them back to Boogie so am thinking about taking it up the road a few hours to an authorized Boogie repair guy but want to compile some information before I do. Thanks for any help- this is a great community!
Hunter
 

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