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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:58 pm 
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I guess they didn't think it would take 9 years to complete the speaker R&D project. Listening to the Rectoverb 25 clips, you can really hear how the speaker doesn't sound fizzy at all. It's actually kind of bizarre since I'm not used to hearing something like that come from a guitar.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:41 pm 
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YellowJacket wrote:
I guess they didn't think it would take 9 years to complete the speaker R&D project. Listening to the Rectoverb 25 clips, you can really hear how the speaker doesn't sound fizzy at all. It's actually kind of bizarre since I'm not used to hearing something like that come from a guitar.


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Eliminating the high-end fizz associated with the current V30's was a major goal in the development of the Fillmore 75. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:10 pm 
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I probably sound pessimistic but I really want to give these speakers a go.

Are they going in the Recto cabs? And when will they be available for individual purchase?

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I probably sound pessimistic but I really want to give these speakers a go.

Are they going in the Recto cabs? And when will they be available for individual purchase?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:11 pm 
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Whether I'm playing clean or distorted stuff, I am a big fan of the Vintage 30s that Mesa uses in their cabs. I just don't see the Fillmores being able to compete with the Vintage 30s.

That being said, I look forward to trying out a cab with Fillmores. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:33 pm 
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Eliminating the high-end fizz associated with the current V30's was a major goal in the development of the Fillmore 75. Thanks!


Awesome! Now I'll eventually have to have at least one cab with one of these bad boys in it.

Are your v30s still going to be available? Their sound currently is an industry standard for high gain (How many guys play whatever assortment of amp heads through a Mesa 4 x 12. I think your 4 x 12 is even more popular than your amps) and I'd argue it is iconic. Iconic enough to warrant having one.

A 2 x 12 with a fillmore 75 and a OEM v30 would be ideal because it would allow either option in the studio...


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Yes, our V30's will still be available. Thanks!

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Any insight as to when these will be available for individual purchase and the price?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:24 pm 
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domct203 wrote:
Any insight as to when these will be available for individual purchase and the price?

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Hi Dom,

More info will be coming soon as to price and raw frame availability. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:53 am 
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Thanks to Mesa for domestic R&D and buying American. I am VERY EXCITED to hear that the 'Filmore' is finally a reality at Mesa. I remember that the Lone Star was originally touted to have featured 'Filmores' and I can only hope that they turn out to be the perfect speaker for the Lone Star . . . Because I never found that one perfect-sonic-fit speaker for it. Our ears are different . . Our likes and dislikes different. Sound is very subjective and personal ; so no doubt others have found the perfect speaker to please their ears . I found a bunch of speakers that worked well in the Lone Star . . Including Mesa's own Black Shadow , Celestion G12T75 , G12K85 , Vintage 30 , EVM-12 , JBL D/E 120 AND MORE ! They all worked , but I usually resorted to mixed pairings to obtain the sound sought after; necesitating the use of 2 speakers in an application where 1 miit have been preferred. Hoping the 'Filmore' will be that one speaker that does it all. I like the G12T75 a lot; but the mids are a bit too scooped. Mesa C90 a touch too muddy; but with nice complexity. Vintage 30 has too pronounced a midrange. Sounds as if the 'Filmore' may well correct all these problems. Maybe it is the 'Goldilocks' speaker. . Porridge not too hot . . Not too cold. Bed not too soft . . Not too hard. I hope for the opportunity to find out soon . . Cause I just looked in on my Lone Stars . . And they implored me to get them some Filmores with that " Please Daddy " look in their soulful baby-blue pilot lights ! Who could resist ? Cheers, Charles Reeder


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The English V30 is integral to many of the quintessential Boogie tones and has been for years. No one here can deny that fact. So imagine the management meeting at M/B when Celestion announced moving production for nearly their entire product line to China? We as Boogie-philes are a discerning bunch...it's all in the esoterica and that's why we love M/B. The smallest detail ends up being the secret sauce in many of our signature tones which took us years, decades, or even a lifetime to develop. Despite Celestion's claims of an identical product from the new facility, we all know the truth...NOT! There's only one Celestion and only one V30 and it's a crucial ingredient to the M/B magic. How can the future of our amp brand be secured if a sole source of a critical component is wavering in design or availability? Answer: find a second source.

Personally, I wouldn't expect M/B to set out to duplicate the V30; that would be self defeating in 2 ways: 1.) innovate, don't perpetuate, and 2.) don't cut off your nose to spite your face by ticking-off Celestion with a V30 "clone". Fillmore line is probably the next evolution of Boogie tone definition, so what were the design parameters? How can I work this into my rig? Granted, it's not publicly available yet, but this is what market spin is for! Whet our tone whistle. Umm...you know what I mean. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:16 pm 
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I really like the sound of this. Ive been shopping speakers. I think Im gonna have to wait and hear this speaker. I wonder if it will be affordable.


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domct203 wrote:
Any insight as to when these will be available for individual purchase and the price?

Dom


Hi Dom,

More info will be coming soon as to price and raw frame availability. Thanks!


Is it "soon" yet :D ?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:38 pm 
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FWIW, I am still really struggling with my Rectoverb 25 with the Fillmore. I just ordered a Mesa V30 in the mail to replace it and see how much is from the cabinet and how much is speaker. When I A/B the Rectoverb with my Mini Recto into a recto 2x12 I am much happier with the latter.

I have to crank the treble control on the RV25 to get any high-end at all, and it is very muddy. If I back off on the bass it improves, but the I lose all the low-end.

Granted, it is completely unfair to compare a small 1x12 open-back combo to a 2x12 sealed cab. But my open-back 4x10 sounds better, too.

I will leave comments when I try it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:39 pm 
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OK, I tried it. I put a brand-new Mesa V30 into the RV25 combo. The tone only changed slightly towards the classic V30 tone. To the best of my ability, the tone was dominated by the cabinet.

I had posted that the Fillmore is a LOT different from the V30. I am currently willing to believe that it is not that extreme, just a bit different, based on the small amount of change that I heard in my poor A/B comparison. The V30 seems to have a bit more upper mid, and that's about it.

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