My Mark III sounds bad!@!!!

[xT00BZRG00Dx]

I dont undrstand why, but, I just dont like the tone out of my Mark III through a Marshall 1960A. Its muddy and loose, not the tight sound I was looking for. Anyone with this same cab have settings????

 

[KRAUT]

what are your settings??

 

[MrMarkIII]

Volume = 7-8
Treble = 7 (Pull Shift works only in Lead mode, adds upper mid gain)
Bass = 2-3 (Or try Zero with Pull Shift)
Too much Bass, especially in Lead mode = Flubby mud, un-tightness.
Mid = 4-8

 

[edgecrusher]

I've played my Mark III out of a Marshall cab a few times and It sounded fine; nice and tight.

Try pulling the volume, treble, and lead master. Also keep the bass knob low, about 0-2, then boost is with the GEQ to taste. Make sure the reverb is all the way off if you have it.

You might also just have old tubes perhaps?

 

[#2121313]

In addition to what edgecrusher mentioned, try the middle at 4 max, but definitely take the bass down to about 1.5 and try keeping the EQ as:

EQ
80: Bottom of the square slider at the middle line (which creates a very slight boost)
2200: Top of the square slider at the middle line (which creates a very slight cut)
750: Bottom of the square slider slightly above the bottom line, like a hair above
2200: Top of the square slider 1/16" - 1/8" below the middle line
6600: Top of the square slider at the middle line (which creates a very slight cut)

I used to like everything pulled accept the bass, pulling the bass knob added huge flubbyness to my ears...I had a Blue Stripe head...

 

[tony777]

I used this when I was searching for an agressive markIII lead

http://www.chain-metal.nl/mark3/?bg=0&d1=70&d2=75&p2=1&d3=0&d4=70&d5=20&p5=1&d6=70&p6=1&d7=25&p7=1&p=40&g1=50&g2=50&g3=15&g4=50&g5=50&t=try+this

 

[Boogie Woogie Man]

Hey Tony, that's a really cool system you got going there. Very clever.

 

[#2121313]

Check these out:

http://www.chain-metal.nl/mark3/metallica.html

 

[#2121313]

Here you go brother the real deal:

http://web.archive.org/web/20061214024121/http://www.sweetsilence.com/GearSlutzNotes.htm

Take note that on "Shortest Straw" they mention a "new Boogie" now during this time ('88) and with the number of knobs and pull options referenced they must be referring to the Mark III...

 

[xT00BZRG00Dx]

what are your settings??

My settings:
Volume: 3.5 pulled
Treble: 7 pulled
Bass: 1.5
Middle: 4
Master: 8 pulled
Lead Drive: 10 pulled
Lead Master: 0 pulled

GEQ:
80: Top of the square almost touching the 3rd line
240: Top of the square slightly above the 3rd line
750: Full
2200: Full
6600: Right below the 80

 

[JOEY B.]

Turn up the (Volume 1) to 8 or above and then adjust your EQ to suit. Turn down the lead drive a bit and the Master and Lead master will need to be adjusted as well.

 

[#2121313]

I agree with Joey B, try the Drive down at around 6, 6.5ish...maybe 7.

 

[xT00BZRG00Dx]

Here are some tones I lwant/like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo4N...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b9t...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVRE...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ4W...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPX-...feature=related
I like a really tight rhythm tone and a smooth, liquidy, creamy lead tone. Can you suggest to me some cabs????

 

[#2121313]

My advise would be to, first, check this out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&hl=en&v=Mze7-zhkx-4 and follow his tips on how to live in up a Marshall 1960A cab. You may find it makes THE difference your looking for.

If it doesn't and you are still looking for a new cab, I would personally suggest a Mesa/Boogie "4x12 Stiletto Traditional Straight" as shown here: http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Guitar%20Cabinets/StilettoCabs/Stiletto4x12TRst-LG.htm

I have an over sized recto cab (slant) and it sounds great, but from the reviews and research I've done online and from what my ears tell me I believe the recto's may be more suited to Nu Metal type tone, where as I look for a tone more like Hetfield's Justice tone...He used a Marshall straight 4X12 with V30's I figure this is as close but more than likely better quality as it's a Mesa! And based on the description on Mesa's site this cab sounds to be what your lookin for:

"STILETTO® TRADITIONAL cabinets are slightly smaller than our Rectifier® cabinets and produce a tighter, more balanced low end response with an emphasis on attack. The midrange is more pronounced and this cabinet is often preferred for styles that require a tight tracking, articulate response."

When they list this cab as being smaller, I beleive it's smaller in comparison to an over sized recto cab which makes it smaller yes but the same size as a traditional 4 X 12 like your 1960A so it's not really "smaller"...

Let us know what you decide post results.

 

[KRAUT]

what are your settings??

My settings:
Volume: 3.5 pulled
Treble: 7 pulled
Bass: 1.5
Middle: 4
Master: 8 pulled
Lead Drive: 10 pulled
Lead Master: 0 pulled

GEQ:
80: Top of the square almost touching the 3rd line
240: Top of the square slightly above the 3rd line
750: Full
2200: Full
6600: Right below the 80

I like this Lead-sound a lot with my III-simul black-dot, LP w/SD SH6 on bridge.
Its very chunky with nice fat tone and rich harmonics.
try out:

Volume: 6.5
Treble: 4.5
Bass: 1.5
Middle: 4.0
Master: 3.5 (pull)
Lead Drive: 7.0 (pull)
Lead Master: 5.5 (pull)
(presence: 4.5 )

The EQ:

maybe you have to tweek a little bit but its a good starting-point
for the tone you want.
..

 

[tony777]

Hey Tony, that's a really cool system you got going there. Very clever.

Not my design, but as you said very clever.
I was led to the link on this forum for some years ago, and kept it under my favorites.
Very useful, for instance, saving tweaks for recordings.

 

[xT00BZRG00Dx]

My advise would be to, first, check this out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&hl=en&v=Mze7-zhkx-4 and follow his tips on how to live in up a Marshall 1960A cab. You may find it makes THE difference your looking for.

If it doesn't and you are still looking for a new cab, I would personally suggest a Mesa/Boogie "4x12 Stiletto Traditional Straight" as shown here: http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Guitar%20Cabinets/StilettoCabs/Stiletto4x12TRst-LG.htm

I have an over sized recto cab (slant) and it sounds great, but from the reviews and research I've done online and from what my ears tell me I believe the recto's may be more suited to Nu Metal type tone, where as I look for a tone more like Hetfield's Justice tone...He used a Marshall straight 4X12 with V30's I figure this is as close but more than likely better quality as it's a Mesa! And based on the description on Mesa's site this cab sounds to be what your lookin for:

"STILETTO® TRADITIONAL cabinets are slightly smaller than our Rectifier® cabinets and produce a tighter, more balanced low end response with an emphasis on attack. The midrange is more pronounced and this cabinet is often preferred for styles that require a tight tracking, articulate response."

When they list this cab as being smaller, I beleive it's smaller in comparison to an over sized recto cab which makes it smaller yes but the same size as a traditional 4 X 12 like your 1960A so it's not really "smaller"...

Let us know what you decide post results.

I wuld get the Stilleto trad., but I arleady posted an ad to trade my 1960A for a Rectifier 2x12, and got a response arleady.