Are formula's that bad ?

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They don't seem to have a good rep , no one uses them ? or they're not great at anything ?
when you read old copy , it sounds good , but that's only words
 
I have had mine for close to 15 years now and I love it. I matched it up with a G-Major and a 20/20 through a G-Flex. Admittedly I spent a LOT of time getting the sounds that I liked out of it, but once I got that dialed in it has treated me very well. Once I got the 20/20 and I could switch the channels via MIDI, the rig became my mainstay. I have been putting together a Triaxis/G-Major2/2:90 rig with a LiquidFoot+ 12+ for a while now (I have all the stuff sitting around), but I am in no hurry as my Formula rig is not "broken" and satisfies my needs. The only reason for a new rig is for backup and the desire to have a rehearsal & gigging rig.
 
Thanks for the reply , fwiw looks like I'm getting one in a trade . I thought it sounded decent
but agree that it has excessive low end looseness on the lead channel ,
I see refrence to " Andrew's mod " but no schematics are there any around ?
[ fwiw as well I thought it sounded fairly like a Mark preamp ] tia regards Greg
 
I thought mine sounded great, great cleans, the lead channel does not have the overdrive that the newer lines and a lot of the sounds Mesa is famous for, but I thought it was great.
There is a thread around here about matching the impedance (if that is the right term) between the preamp and power amp.
I personally loved running mine from the record out into the power amp. Thought it sounded tight. Like the Mark series, you want to keep the bass tone control low. I do think I have the Andrew Mod doc somewhere around here. I never did the mod.
 
There were some schematics attached to this thread about the mod but they seem to have gone...

http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11262&p=78316&hilit=+andrew+mod#p78316
 
No schematics, here is the info I have.

First check the serialnumber of your unit!
Up until now i´ve recieved comments of some users with sr.nrs. below FP-000400 to be in a somewhat different state and can look pretty messy, with components soldered even in mid air!
Mesa clearly did some hasty last-minute modifications to these units.
However, they assured me that the circuitry is the same as the later "Standard" Formula´s!
On these units i would recommend to only try replacing the resistor first as this might be enough for you without too much hassle.
That said you can read on:

Be save when you work inside your amp!
There can be lethal voltages present even when the unit has been off for a while.
If you don't know which precautions to take poke around the Internet, there's lot's of information about this.
All the mods are to be done at the tube-printboard.
I did try several other things at the main-printboard but with no significant results.
Using common sense and care is required, don't force things!
I do not take any responsability regarding this mod, you do this at your own risk!

There is something you should check for in your Formula first, at the tube-printboard:

-Check if there's a .01uF (.01K) capacitor placed instead of a .047uF (.047K) near the
middle relay (#5) at the tubeboard (see Fig. 1)
If not: replace for the .01uF(500-600 Volts), use a Sprague "orange drop" or preferably a
Xicon Polypropylene capacitor (Boogie uses these too)
Chances are there is already a .01uF in there, mine did not!
I placed mine at the back of the printboard since there is little space left over, my old
capacitor was damaged by one of the nylon studs which hold the printboard.

-Replace the 475Kohm grid load resistor (colorcoded: yellow,purple,green,red )of the first
lead gain stage for a 1 Megaohm 0,5 Watt (or 0,33 Watt) resistor (See Fig. 1)
-Replace the cathode bypass capacitor for this same stage from 1 uF to .47 uF (See Fig. 1)
use a Sprague/Vishay 173D 35Volt tantalum capacitor for replacement, to preserve the Boogie layout.
You could use an ordinary electrolytic too but this could sound differently.
Make sure to place the capacitor in the right direction (+ or -)
 

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