Mesa Recto Reborn or Recto pre + 2:100 ?

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Mesa Recto Reborn or Recto pre + 2:100 ?

Post by psihiatros » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:54 am

Hi,

I allready have the recto preamp and I would like to know if it's worth it to buy the 2:100 power amp or just sell the pre and go with the Reborn head.

How do they compare sound wise?
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Re: Mesa Recto Reborn or Recto pre + 2:100 ?

Post by MesaMad1378 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:38 am

I have both the Recto Recording and the 2:100 and also a Recto Reborn. I like them both, they are very similar in sound but obviously the 2:100 just kills it volume wise, it is extremely loud. You can run 4 Recto cabs easily. But that is what you want with that sort of setup. The Recto Reborn can be 50watts, so quieter, the 2:100 is 200watts.
The Recto Recording sounds good through my 2:90 as well, so you can go that way.
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Re: Mesa Recto Reborn or Recto pre + 2:100 ?

Post by psihiatros » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:16 pm

MesaMad1378 wrote:I have both the Recto Recording and the 2:100 and also a Recto Reborn. I like them both, they are very similar in sound but obviously the 2:100 just kills it volume wise, it is extremely loud. You can run 4 Recto cabs easily. But that is what you want with that sort of setup. The Recto Reborn can be 50watts, so quieter, the 2:100 is 200watts.
The Recto Recording sounds good through my 2:90 as well, so you can go that way.
Thank you very much for your response MesaMad1378 :)
I would like to discuss a little bit more about this if you don't mind.
You see,
I'm bulding a system to play at home/home studio and i am a little confused about wich path i sould follow really. Rack or head?
The clean sound is just as important as the dirty one.
I love the clean sound of the studio preamp.
So I thought, a studio or formula pre for the cleans, the recto pre for the dirt and a cae 3+ for the in between sounds. Change between them into a 2:100 or 2:90 for power amp. Then load down that, take the line signal, mix it with some fx in a line mixer and feed another stereo power amp to feed 2 cabs in stereo.

I also thought about buying a reborn to avoid the recto rack thing ang also have the options for 50-100w, tube/diodes rectifier, spongy/bold and 3 channels instead of 2.
Then throw the studio for cleans and the cae for the other tones to the fx return and be done with it.
I even thought about buying a road king 2 to have a clean channel instead of the studio but I read that the sounds are not metal /tight as the reborn. Plus it costs a fortune.

So, I don't know..
How would you describe the tone from the recto+2:90 Vs recto+2:100 Vs the Reborn?
As far as the dirty tones go, i am in a quest for the perfect combination of a recto and mark distortion together. I mean, recto with an od pedal, mark preamp in a recto poweramp or recto pre in a mark power amp.

Really difficult subject.
Chris
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Re: Mesa Recto Reborn or Recto pre + 2:100 ?

Post by MesaMad1378 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:20 am

Hi there,

I actually like the Recto through the 2:90 best, but it’s not the true Rectifier sound. The Recto and Triaxis mixed through the 2:90 is my favourite sound. When I put them through the 2:100 it is also good but a bit more trebley, not as fat as the 2:90, the 2:100 sounds better cranked than it does down low. The 2:90 sounds good low and at high volumes, it doesn’t get trebley and you can add deep to it if it doesn’t have enough bottom end. The 2:90 does have modern, so it gets very close to the 2:100. Obviously the 2:100 has the dedicated Recto Recording in’s which put all volume control on the preamp unit to.

The cleans from the Recto Recording are pretty good, I like them. The Triaxis has a bit more clean headroom. The Rectifier Reborn isn’t real good at cleans, they are quiet due to having to turn down the Gain a lot. I liked the cleans on my Stiletto Duece II, I used to just use it for my cleans.

I haven’t played with the studio or cae so I have nothing to say about them other than I’d like to try them.

Cheers Brett
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Re: Mesa Recto Reborn or Recto pre + 2:100 ?

Post by Ulf2 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:31 am

I'd like to join here, too. I also own a Rectifier Preamp and every now and then I am toying with the idea of getting a Reborn.
In fact, the only relevant sound to me, is the Modern High Gain channel.

My questions:
a. How close is the Preamp channel to the same channel in the Reborn head? If it is super close, it might just get the right power amp

b. I do have a rare Colisseum 300 which was marketed as a Triple Rectifier power amp. However it is heavy and big. So... has anyone compared that one to the 2:100? It does not have the dedicated inputs for the Recto preamp so you would end up with two presence knobs.

Any help might be a real money saver.
As said, I basically only care about that High Gain channel for downtuned stuff. My other amps cover Clean and Crunch here. Thanks for helping
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Re: Mesa Recto Reborn or Recto pre + 2:100 ?

Post by MesaMad1378 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:20 am

Hi there,

To my ears with the Recto Recording and the 2:100 and the Rectifier Reborn Sound pretty much on par. They are both sound awesome going through 2x 4x12 Recto Cabs.

I think they sound better with EQ after the preamp and before the power amp.

To do the Recto Recording and the 2:100 properly you need 2 EQ pedals, I have 2 MXR KFK 10 band EQ’s. It is pretty awesome, very thick and fat but still tight and not flubby.

If you can get the 2:100 cheaply, go for it. I think the 2:90 does the job good to, if you can get one of them cheaply, go for it. The Recto Reborn is awesome to, if you can get one of them cheaply, go for it to.

All depends where you want to go, if your like me, you’ll probably want them both. I got all my Amps at good prices, the people I got them off just wanted the money and I offered all of them way below what they were asking.
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Re: Mesa Recto Reborn or Recto pre + 2:100 ?

Post by Ulf2 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:25 am

Thanks for the details. PM sent.
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