surferdeac
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Thank you very much for taking the time to share your tube experience knowledge with my self and everyone else here BF Shred. I appreciate it. Ya know i have a stiletto ace head on order along with a 2x12 horizontal rectifier cab. I have owned a Carvin Legacy combo amp for the last 7 years or so and had it serviced every year and a half or so and my amp tech and I from time to time would try out different El34's in the power section. the Last ones I had in there were GTE34LS AKA:6CA7's perfomance 5 MATCHED. I really seemed to enjoy these along with GT12AX7R (Ecc83/7025) GOLD SERIES pre amp tubes which seem to be pretty good (low microphonics) and quiet enough to my ears. I wrote mesa to see if they could at least fit out my head with their more expensive stock grade el34str450's over the 447's and there spAX7a's (sp?????--- special maybe they are just more strict with how much normal microphonic noise they make compared to the rest of the bunch). The reason I am looking to use their stocked tubes is because i don't want to null and void the great warranty Mesa is so known and respected for. But it just seems that a good majority of people here seem to be complaining about how lifeless these sock Mesa Tubes are (at least the ones that they initially come stock with when sending them out to their distributors. DO YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE OUT THERE think that the GT tubes that I just talked about would damage the internal circuitry of my soon to be new ACE Head???????????.
By the way a lot of people seem to put down the Stiletto Ace For being well to bright. Bright in my humble opinion isn't necessarily bad. Especially bright and Warm compared to bright and harsh which some people on this mesa Board seem to be complaining about with regards to Ace Heads. TO EACH HIS TONE :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I have also been thinking about another thing. I wonder how many people out there In Stiletto deuce II land actually use the 100 watt setting. I know i never do with my Carvin Legacy. I always use the 50 watt setting option because it is easier for me to get a "SATURATED" tone at a lower volume and plus i don't have a hot plate. Here is the thing, I think that my carvin amp sounds a little bit better (fuller sounding and even crisper), when cranked using all 100 watts of Power, but its just to ear deafening unless i have earplugs in :mrgreen:. I used my amp with my old band, but the majority of my playing is done in my home studio and was also done a lot in my old keybord player's families professional studio. my point is this, I heard and loved the Deuce (which i didn't think was too bright). Played it even saw Andy Timmons at a guitar clinic play it, but if I had one I wouldn't be using it the way it was designed to be used that is at a 100 watt setting based on the 100 watt rated transformer. I would be using it at 50 watt setting because the small gigs that i may use it at have pa systems anyway if i was concerned about headroom in the clean channel.
So has anybody out there actually done an experiment and tried playing an Ace head and a deuce head at similar settings through the same cab at the 50 watt setting on the deuce???
If not has anybody out there that has a deuce II head done a tone test using the 100 watt setting vs 50 watt setting??????
I guess i got a little scared when people were saying the ace head is to "harsh" sounding especially because i only tried and heard the Deuce up close and personal and not the ACE, and decided on ordering the Ace anyways. I have heard it just haven't played one. The People that i have talked to that own ACE heads however most of them like them and say it just takes to time to tweak you amps eq. Also having a rackmount eq plus tc electronic gmajor rackmount eq i am sure will give me some a lot of options especially if this amp is too excessively bright. Changing out my tubes will probably help as well. The 2x12 rectifier cab will probably give it a fuller sound compared to the stiletto 2x12 cab as well. PLEASE FORGIVE MY RANTING
COMMENTS???? SUGGESTIONS ANYONE??? I'M ALL EARS??
"A musicianer just has to learn for himself, just by playing and LISTENING...... There ain't no one can write down the feeling you have to have. Thats from inside yourself"
"When you play from your heart, all of a sudden there's no gravity. You don't feel the weight of the world,of bills, of anything. Thats why people love it. Your so called insurmountable problems disappear, and instead of problems you get possibilities" - Carlos Santana- 8) :twisted: :mrgreen:
By the way a lot of people seem to put down the Stiletto Ace For being well to bright. Bright in my humble opinion isn't necessarily bad. Especially bright and Warm compared to bright and harsh which some people on this mesa Board seem to be complaining about with regards to Ace Heads. TO EACH HIS TONE :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I have also been thinking about another thing. I wonder how many people out there In Stiletto deuce II land actually use the 100 watt setting. I know i never do with my Carvin Legacy. I always use the 50 watt setting option because it is easier for me to get a "SATURATED" tone at a lower volume and plus i don't have a hot plate. Here is the thing, I think that my carvin amp sounds a little bit better (fuller sounding and even crisper), when cranked using all 100 watts of Power, but its just to ear deafening unless i have earplugs in :mrgreen:. I used my amp with my old band, but the majority of my playing is done in my home studio and was also done a lot in my old keybord player's families professional studio. my point is this, I heard and loved the Deuce (which i didn't think was too bright). Played it even saw Andy Timmons at a guitar clinic play it, but if I had one I wouldn't be using it the way it was designed to be used that is at a 100 watt setting based on the 100 watt rated transformer. I would be using it at 50 watt setting because the small gigs that i may use it at have pa systems anyway if i was concerned about headroom in the clean channel.
So has anybody out there actually done an experiment and tried playing an Ace head and a deuce head at similar settings through the same cab at the 50 watt setting on the deuce???
If not has anybody out there that has a deuce II head done a tone test using the 100 watt setting vs 50 watt setting??????
I guess i got a little scared when people were saying the ace head is to "harsh" sounding especially because i only tried and heard the Deuce up close and personal and not the ACE, and decided on ordering the Ace anyways. I have heard it just haven't played one. The People that i have talked to that own ACE heads however most of them like them and say it just takes to time to tweak you amps eq. Also having a rackmount eq plus tc electronic gmajor rackmount eq i am sure will give me some a lot of options especially if this amp is too excessively bright. Changing out my tubes will probably help as well. The 2x12 rectifier cab will probably give it a fuller sound compared to the stiletto 2x12 cab as well. PLEASE FORGIVE MY RANTING
COMMENTS???? SUGGESTIONS ANYONE??? I'M ALL EARS??
"A musicianer just has to learn for himself, just by playing and LISTENING...... There ain't no one can write down the feeling you have to have. Thats from inside yourself"
"When you play from your heart, all of a sudden there's no gravity. You don't feel the weight of the world,of bills, of anything. Thats why people love it. Your so called insurmountable problems disappear, and instead of problems you get possibilities" - Carlos Santana- 8) :twisted: :mrgreen:
