What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

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What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by Bennie » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:01 pm

I am interested in adding a programmable stereo midi EQ to my set up. I have not used any in the past. Is there a preferred unit or manufacturer for guitar rigs? I'm thinking in the $300 and under range.
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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by Malin » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:12 pm

TC 1128

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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by ando » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:54 pm

Malin wrote:TC 1128
The TC 1128 is a 28-band mono EQ.
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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by Malin » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:06 pm

ando wrote:
Malin wrote:TC 1128
The TC 1128 is a 28-band mono EQ.
I've read in the manual it can be set up...or I'M just stupid

I think so

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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by ando » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:50 pm

Malin wrote:
ando wrote:
Malin wrote:TC 1128
The TC 1128 is a 28-band mono EQ.
I've read in the manual it can be set up...or I'M just stupid

I think so
If you mean it can be set up in stereo, no it can't. It only has one input channel and one output channel. 28 bands is massive overkill IMO. Would take too long to set. These EQ's are for large scale live mixing desks where you have to get the venue acoustics just right.
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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by lento » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:31 am

The TC 1128 can be used with a TC 1128x (expander) to make a stereo pair. You can also combine another 1128 in the same way.

I don't regard them as overkill at all. There are so many facilities available, from analysing any sound you put into it (with a realtime spectrum display) to controlling individual EQ bands via a midi controller. Not to mention having 99 presets instantly available, and there's an old software editor (Sounddiver) available, too.

The real beauty is that it's analogue, with digital control, and has a really nice sound to it.

I don't think you'll find both for $300, but you should be able to find one.

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Post by ando » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:53 am

lento wrote:The TC 1128 can be used with a TC 1128x (expander) to make a stereo pair. You can also combine another 1128 in the same way.

I don't regard them as overkill at all. There are so many facilities available, from analysing any sound you put into it (with a realtime spectrum display) to controlling individual EQ bands via a midi controller. Not to mention having 99 presets instantly available, and there's an old software editor (Sounddiver) available, too.

The real beauty is that it's analogue, with digital control, and has a really nice sound to it.

I don't think you'll find both for $300, but you should be able to find one.

Lyn
Maybe not overkill for everybody, but for most. They are going for around $500-600 each for one that is over ten years old, generally speaking. So buying two is unattainable for most people. The other problem with expanding them or buying two is the increased size of your rack. If you have roadies that carry your gear everywhere it's ok, but when you have to haul it all around yourself, this is the kind of overkill that can break your spirit! In an ideal world though, yeah, I'd love to have two of these babies in my rack. :D

It's overkill in the sense that most people couldn't justify the expense of running them in stereo. I would actually just buy one and use it in mono before my effects change it to stereo. Also overkill in the sense that they have a ridiculous number of bands for a guitar setup. They go beyond the frequencies that guitar amps even produce - hence their intended use being live sound mixing desks. Still a great unit though.
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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by lento » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:24 am

Regarding the use of stereo for the guitar rig, I agree it's overkill when you can run one before your FX and still maintain stereo. This is what I do and can't think of any real benefit otherwise.

Regarding the extra bands, the 1/3rd octave is as good as it gets (without having a parametric EQ) and you also have to consider that the FX we generally use for guitar are also ridiculously spec'd. But, it's not only the fundamentals we hear.

Finally, the weight ........ Well, we're already carrying such a load that 3 or 4 more kilos doesn't really make that much difference :wink:

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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by RectoStudioGuy » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:02 am

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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by Malin » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:59 am

I can have the tc 1128 for 250 shipped...

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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by ando » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:45 pm

Malin wrote:I can have the tc 1128 for 250 shipped...
Bargain! You should grab it.
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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by Malin » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:25 pm

I already have 2 ;)

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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by Bennie » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:42 am

YOu have one for sale? how old is the unit. Are there any particular concerns with these units that I should be aware of?

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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by Malin » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:41 pm

No I don't have one for sale...I'll be using it for my next build!

They work like a charm if you take the time to read the manual et let you ears guide you.

PM me your email and I'll see if I can grab some more

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Re: What EQ is good for a guitar rig?

Post by ando » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:15 pm

Malin wrote:No I don't have one for sale...I'll be using it for my next build!

They work like a charm if you take the time to read the manual et let you ears guide you.

PM me your email and I'll see if I can grab some more
Hey for that price, I wouldn't mind grabbing one too.
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