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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:54 pm 
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I'm gonna replace the fan on my 20/20 because the one in there is starting to make some intermittent noises. Can someone please tell me what are the specs of the fan in there, what voltage and what size is the fan? Is it a 40mm fan? If so, is that pretty standard in terms of mounting screws? Then what voltage does the 20/20 provide for the fan?

I realize I can probably just contact Mesa Boogie and get one from them, but want to look into potentially quieter alternatives, and no I don't want to do some of the trick setups with larger fans and such that others are doing on this thread, I just want to get a drop in replacement and try to find one that is maybe a bit quieter.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:00 pm 
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Hi there,

The standard fan in the mesa 20/20 is a 5vDC the make and other details will be on the fan, if not let me know and i will send you the other details you need to order a replacement. But to get the same air flow from a small size diameter fan it will still maybe be as noisey.

Let me know if i can help.

Cheers Dan


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:28 pm 
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Yea I hear you there, but still I want to find a fan that is marketed as being super silent, it can't hurt. Its a 4cm fan right? I guess the size and screw mounts are standard (I hope?)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:48 pm 
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yes its a 4cm.

The noisey one i removed from my boogie was a Sunon KD0504PKB2


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:51 pm 
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excellent info thank you. This way I can order fan without having to take my 20/20 apart first


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:42 pm 
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In case anyone is interested or needing this info in the future, this is the model I ended up getting, which I don't expect to be appreciably less noisy:

http://www.newark.com/sunon/mb40200v2-0 ... dp/79R6518

It has vapo bearings, which might be a bit quieter, we'll see. The existing fan, mentioned above seems to have noise ratings around 29dba and this one is 21dba. I could have gone for the slightly slower one, which uses a slightly slower RPM and has 18dba noise level, which would be quite good, but it also moves a bit less air, so I decided I'd rather have the air. This model I got actually appears to move a bit more air then the original mentioned above, per the specs. But probably the 18dba one would work just fine too.

The Sunon Model number is: MB40200V2-0000-A99


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:49 pm 
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Was the new fan any quieter ???

Just wondering



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:26 am 
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haven't had a chance to install it yet. I will try to update this thread when I get it done.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:20 pm 
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Was playing a gig in Guam and could hear the fan during the clean parts of Empty Rooms...insanely annoying!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:59 pm 
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Newcastlebrown wrote:
Was the new fan any quieter ???

Just wondering


I finally got around to installing this fan(see earlier post). It was not quieter. Also, there is buzzing noise coming from the speaker now, so I am ordering a replacement part from Mesa to try that, since the one in my 20/20 has an intermittant problem where it gets REALLY loud, like something rubbing. The one I got was 5v also, I don't know why noise is coming out of the speaker now, but hopefully with a real part from Mesa that won't happen. I do notice the original fan in the unit was .6w and the replacement I mentioned above is 1watt. I don't know if that matters or not, but there is clearly noise in the audio signal now.

One thing I notice is that these fans are dead quiet when not attached to the chassis. I think the loud sound is a combination of whoosing air through the tight space yes, but actually I think the bigger factor is the vibrations are some how transmitted to the chassis and its quite loud.

I might try to try to find some rubber screws and washers to try to mount it next, that won't be easy to find, but that is what I will try next.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:47 am 
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Got the stock fan from mesa. It was really not any quieter, but at least not broken like the last one.

However, I did manage to make the 20/20 fan substantially quieter by using velcro to fasten it inside the 20/20 instead of the screws. its quite secure and monumentally quieter. Its not dead silent, but way ok now. I highly reccomend this approach for anyone in the future wanting to quiet this beast down.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:21 pm 
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Hopefully pictures attached of my modified Mesa 20/20 with Becos deep mod and 2 x silent fans fitted.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:55 am 
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havent been here in a long time, glad to see someone picked up on my 8x8 fan solution and pushed it a little further, great job newcastlebrown! :!:

as a long term test i gotta say: still very happy with my 9V single 8x8cm fan solution, its been like that since 5 years now, unit is still healthy :)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:46 pm 
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hehe, 7500 view during the years ... soon going into 2017 and my 20:20 is still going strong, still inaudible fan noise - best poweramp I ever had after the deep and fan mod!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:24 am 
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Hi whitepony,

New 20/20 owner here ;)

Good to know you are still around these parts. I think have to do something about that fan noise myself at some point in the near future.
Problem is I'm not that much of an electronics expert (although I'm also not completely useless as a DYI guy and generally a fairly technical person) - so I'm worried about getting myself into too complex solutions.

I think I'll start by trying out the velcro approach mentioned by Dewdman42 and see how that goes. If that isn't enough I guess I'll have to look into installing a larger fan like you and Newcastlebrown have done.

Cheers,
Kasper


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