New Quad Owner *with vid*

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New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by skoora » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:46 pm

Had a studio pre about 5 years ago and kind of wanted one again but wanted to try a quad. Well here it is. Ch 1 sounds a fair bit "bigger" than Ch 2. Clean or dirty. Just has more girth. No idea if this thing has been modded or not. I had it open when I first got it to make sure the tubes shipped OK and it looked fairly original inside. Really digging it so far. CH 1 clean gets an awesome breakup tone with the gain all the way up. Very AC/DC like but slightly cleaner. The Lead channel also responds to volume roll-off great. Get a great chimey breakup tone with the volume down on the guitar. Did a quick vid with my phone just on Lead 1. Using my MKV for power. Gibson 80's V with Wolfetone Marshallheads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdGziAj ... gs=pl%2Cwn

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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by stephen sawall » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:51 am

Sounds bad @$$
The fact that Stephen appears from nowhere, is sentenced to death in an emotional public trial without anyone interfering at all and is then altogether forgotten as if nothing happened, is already suspicious.

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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by skoora » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:14 pm

Yeah, I dig it. gotta admit I haven't spent much time on CH 2 as CH 1 is so good. Even though CH2 has a little more gain it sounds smaller than CH 1. Mind you, I have no idea if somebody in the past tried mod's etc.
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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by stephen sawall » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:57 pm

Saw one in Tacoma not long ago. Don't see many of them around. Just awesome.
The fact that Stephen appears from nowhere, is sentenced to death in an emotional public trial without anyone interfering at all and is then altogether forgotten as if nothing happened, is already suspicious.

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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by psihiatros » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:04 am

skoora wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:14 pm
Even though CH2 has a little more gain it sounds smaller than CH 1
Yeah, that's because they are 2 different preamps in a box. Ch1= Mark IIC/CH2=Mark III 👍🏼
Had it, sold it. Studio Pre however, that's another story. Just awesome in every way.
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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by skoora » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:40 pm

I had a pre in the past as well and CH1 on the quad is as good and from memory a little better than the pre I had. But in kind of agreeing with you, if you really just want the heavy the pre will get it done. I'm interested in what other tones I'll find in ch2 though as I haven't had it long. I love the edge of breakup tones in ch 1 so if can get the heavy tone I need from ch2 it will be great.

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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by psihiatros » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:43 pm

You know,
The thing is, whatever i tried with the quad, the studio was always bigger sounding no matter what.
With the quad, you can achieve 4 pseudo sounds or 2 great sounds.
Ch1 for heavy rythm and ch2 for a metal solo/lead sound.
Otherwise, in ch1 you can have a very nice blackface clean sound (studio is God here) and a breakup sound as well.
In ch2 a kind of marshall rhythm sound and a metal solo sound as well.
Best is to have quad and studio in the same rack, with an old 50/50, 2:95, or even a 2:90, in case you wanna go the rack way.
Otherwise, you're better off with a mark V.
That's what i did anyway 🙂
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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by geetar_geek79 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:50 am

This makes me miss my Quad that I have in storage

3 more years before I see it again... =(

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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by Friedmett » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:59 pm

Have Quad preamp and 295 poweramp which is rare in Denmark. Export 220 volt version. Looking to get service and tubes in the near future. Tried the recording outputs on the Quad alone and it sounds pretty good.

This couple may have been together before in the early 1990s when it was new by a guitarist Soren Reiff.

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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by jediguitarist » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:26 pm

Friedmett wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:59 pm
Have Quad preamp and 295 poweramp which is rare in Denmark. Export 220 volt version. Looking to get service and tubes in the near future. Tried the recording outputs on the Quad alone and it sounds pretty good.

This couple may have been together before in the early 1990s when it was new by a guitarist Soren Reiff.
Recording output of the Quad with some impulse responses is very magical!

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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by MkIII Renegade » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:09 pm

skoora wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:14 pm
Yeah, I dig it. gotta admit I haven't spent much time on CH 2 as CH 1 is so good. Even though CH2 has a little more gain it sounds smaller than CH 1. Mind you, I have no idea if somebody in the past tried mod's etc.
My Quad is also the way, but it is apparently part of the oddball design. The original manual gives the recommended starter settings which work well together.

As much as I love the face-melting thrashy intensity of Chan 2, I must say Chan 1 is more inspiring for lead work much of the time and any kind of classic big rock chords. And by the way I was digging your Kill 'Em all era riffs! Those are the most fun Metallica songs to jam on IMO. I had great fun recording my instrumental versions of No Remorse, Phantom Lord, Metal Militia, and Hit the Lights. :twisted:
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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by Darth Bacelar » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:47 pm

I use right now the same combo: Quad + Mark V poweramp. Much more versatile than the 50/50, so for a recording situation is great.

I didn't notice any tone changes between channels, except for the extreme mode, which sounds huge.

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Re: New Quad Owner *with vid*

Post by frood » Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:34 am

I've been experimenting with my Quad today, trying to find a good recording setup. I had to downsize on some gear so I no longer have a cab or a power amp (used to have an orange 1x12 and a marshall 9005, which was a great combination but not great for a small flat), so it's all straight to my interface now. I've tried each channel in the the following output options:

- in the loop of my digitech gsp1101 (I use this for fx and some of the amp models, it's very handy for easy recording), main and then recording outputs then back to the gsp1101 and then the XLR out to the interface
- the main outputs to the interface (no gsp1101)
- the recording outputs (ditto)
- the FX send, line level (ditto)

I level matched it all in reaper and added the cab IR that i've uploaded to the gsp1101, so it's a reasonably fair comparison.

There were some interesting differences but the overall character of the amp is present in each of these modes. I'll discuss the routing that didn't involve the gsp1101 first, because obviously this is totally specific to my setup (though the results are worth discussing). so, the main outputs have more of a raspy top end, a slightly clearer sound in the two lead modes and R2. I set L2 as my heavy rhythm tone and it has a nice chunk with the main outs, though it's slightly lacking something compared to L1 for solos. L1 is THE mode for long sustaining solo stuff.

the recording outputs are a bit muddier but give a slightly nicer, bouncier clean tone in R1. I tried to stick to the bridge humbucker of my HSS strat but a few phrases on the neck pickup sounded nice here, quite fender-y. the recording outputs sounded ok-ish without the cab impulse file (the main outputs sounded like cack, as expected). L1 gets a bit too muddy on the lower strings around the 12th fret - this would be more noticeable and more annoying with a neck humbucker, and i have quite different settings with my yamaha sg2000 (basically a gibson LP sort of sounding guitar).

the real eye opener for my was using the FX send. there is so much more detail in the top end. R1 is very spikey and it's like a presence control has just been opened right up. I would be tempted to record from the FX send and experiment with some different IRs, because it just seemed like there is more detail there.

I had a look at a couple of the stock Reaper eq plugins to get a visual idea of what's going on with the frequencies. basically, there's a gentle slope all the way up from 20Hz to around 100 (the booming, mud that you just remove anyway), and then fairly even response up to around 5-6k, from which just vanishes. the recording outputs have the least top end, basically nothing above 6-6.5k. the mains have a little more, but it's essentially absent from 8k up. the most interesting thing was the FX send, where there's a gentle slope down from 7-8k down to 12k or so - basically supporting what I was hearing about the extra detail. it's not particularly usable in the distorted modes (you can happily low pass at 9k and it's sound great), but the extra "presence" is surely something worth experimenting with in R1.

now, the patches i've made with the gsp1101 include a bit of delay and modulation, but more importantly you can add a stomp box, which gives a nice bit of compression and mid boost (tubescreamer vibes). the other key addition you can make is to add a parametric eq and this does help tighten everything up a bit: cut the extreme lows, the mud 300 Hz region, and maybe a wide boost in the 1-3k area (or wherever suits the mode/guitar/song/etc.).

all this experimenting was enjoyable, but it did sort of make me wish for a simple combo! on the other hand i know that I can get a huge range of sounds, just by messing with a couple of cables.
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