New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by dlpasco » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:22 pm

Looks like standard control layouts for a 90-watt Mark V with a small cluster of controls between the Channel 2 and Channel 3 control blocks.

Interesting cutaway in the front grille. Sort of a pyramid shape.
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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by dmcguitar » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:05 pm

Front panel reminds me of the Mesa home is tone logo. I call it the eagle

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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by dmcguitar » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:28 pm

SamuelJ86 wrote:I'm really not looking forward to dropping another $2500 on a new Hetfield amp :cry:

dmcguitar had a comment in another thread that made me think; maybe it's not a Hetfield amp but the next Mark amp, the Mark VI. Or anything really, I'm sure that's not Hetfield's first prototype he's got the chance to try out. Does Hetfield even need two GEQs anyway? His reissue would be more like the original, without the clean channel, just a single lead channel and a GEQ with simul class. His wouldn't need anything groundbreaking like JP has on his. James isnt on stage flipping through settings on his midi, he just needs a really good crunch tone and he's good for the night. Petrucci's amp came from real solutions to the c+ to make it better at performing on stage for him. What would Hetfield have to offer in that department? Any new features his amp might have could seem pretentious. He doesn't need all those features because he doesn't use all those features. But if it sounds good I'll still buy it :mrgreen:

IMO, if mesa was to put out a JH head, it would probably be better as a JP2c styled, multi channel and options, just so they can keep the price up, and not canabalize other amp sales. They always offer too many options on their amps, so it would make sense to keep with that and say here is a clean (maybe with modes) here is the crunch / lead 1 that everyone wants from puppets / AJFA (maybe with modes like Mark4 for the black album sound) and then lead 2 to give that St. Anger sound every loves (j/K) but a 3 channel that could be used for solos (or the Mark 4 sound) would be great. I just think the 2 graphic Eq is a great idea (for 2016+) and also think all amps should have the defeatable Output control.

I am still trying to figure out what the 2 knobs are for... seems like 2 volume 1 knobs would be a possiblity

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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by bgh » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:50 pm

dmcguitar wrote:
SamuelJ86 wrote:I'm really not looking forward to dropping another $2500 on a new Hetfield amp :cry:

dmcguitar had a comment in another thread that made me think; maybe it's not a Hetfield amp but the next Mark amp, the Mark VI. Or anything really, I'm sure that's not Hetfield's first prototype he's got the chance to try out. Does Hetfield even need two GEQs anyway? His reissue would be more like the original, without the clean channel, just a single lead channel and a GEQ with simul class. His wouldn't need anything groundbreaking like JP has on his. James isnt on stage flipping through settings on his midi, he just needs a really good crunch tone and he's good for the night. Petrucci's amp came from real solutions to the c+ to make it better at performing on stage for him. What would Hetfield have to offer in that department? Any new features his amp might have could seem pretentious. He doesn't need all those features because he doesn't use all those features. But if it sounds good I'll still buy it :mrgreen:

IMO, if mesa was to put out a JH head, it would probably be better as a JP2c styled, multi channel and options, just so they can keep the price up, and not canabalize other amp sales. They always offer too many options on their amps, so it would make sense to keep with that and say here is a clean (maybe with modes) here is the crunch / lead 1 that everyone wants from puppets / AJFA (maybe with modes like Mark4 for the black album sound) and then lead 2 to give that St. Anger sound every loves (j/K) but a 3 channel that could be used for solos (or the Mark 4 sound) would be great. I just think the 2 graphic Eq is a great idea (for 2016+) and also think all amps should have the defeatable Output control.

I am still trying to figure out what the 2 knobs are for... seems like 2 volume 1 knobs would be a possiblity
Solo control maybe?
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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by barryswanson » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:08 pm

I reckon that big knob in the middle let's you blend or mix in two channels at the same time. Kinda how hetfield blends his amps sounds now. Like channel 2 sounds like a vh4 and channel 3 is a iic+ and both preamps run simultaneously to give you a stereo sound.?

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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by Nicklotsaguitars » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:12 am

I remember the Session amps having that feature, both clean and driven sounds at the same time. It's a nice feature with limited applications.
However it doesn't sound stereo or anything like running two amps. You'd need two output sections and two cabs to achieve that.
Could it be nothing more than a forerunner for the new TC amp?
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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by domct203 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:53 am

Nicklotsaguitars wrote:Could it be nothing more than a forerunner for the new TC amp?
Now that seems plausible

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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by Nicklotsaguitars » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:20 am

Timeframe would be tight. That video was released 17th November. However if I were a company like Mesa and designed a new high gain amp. After the recto's. I'd want it fully checked out and ready before release.
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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by domct203 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:55 am

If that is indeed a prototype, James would have had it for some time now, and I'm sure he gets to keep it 8)

As I recall, the first Rectifier prototypes were built in Mark style chassis as that is what they had on hand.



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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by screamingdaisy » Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:31 am

SamuelJ86 wrote:I'm really not looking forward to dropping another $2500 on a new Hetfield amp :cry:

dmcguitar had a comment in another thread that made me think; maybe it's not a Hetfield amp but the next Mark amp, the Mark VI. Or anything really, I'm sure that's not Hetfield's first prototype he's got the chance to try out. Does Hetfield even need two GEQs anyway? His reissue would be more like the original, without the clean channel, just a single lead channel and a GEQ with simul class. His wouldn't need anything groundbreaking like JP has on his. James isnt on stage flipping through settings on his midi, he just needs a really good crunch tone and he's good for the night. Petrucci's amp came from real solutions to the c+ to make it better at performing on stage for him. What would Hetfield have to offer in that department? Any new features his amp might have could seem pretentious. He doesn't need all those features because he doesn't use all those features. But if it sounds good I'll still buy it :mrgreen:
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I am still trying to figure out what the 2 knobs are for... seems like 2 volume 1 knobs would be a possiblity
My guess is that each channel has separate lead gain/lead drive... possibly just for prototyping, and that once James dials in his preference they'll hardwire it like they did on the Mark V and JP2C. This guess doesn't really explain the third knob, but that knob could be controlling some other aspect of the amp that allows him to fine tune something to his preference.

Another guess is that it's a parametric EQ.

Be kind of cool if it had a built in chorus for the clean channel.

If this is is in fact a prototype JH amp I'd be curious to know if it made any of the tracks on their newest album.
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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by Marc_Nitschke221B » Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:45 am

domct203 wrote:
Nicklotsaguitars wrote:Could it be nothing more than a forerunner for the new TC amp?
Now that seems plausible

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That's what I though for a second. But the supposed het sig has an 5 band eq abnd the TC hasn't one. The Amps with (Mark series) and without (Recto etc.) are so different that I don't see a proto with and a final product without an EQ.

If it ain't a het sig, that i think a Mark VI proto would be more realistic...
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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by Nicklotsaguitars » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:31 am

Is the Express Mark Series? The Nomad 100 had an EQ too.
Sorry if it's a silly question, I genuinely don't know
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Re: New signature Hetfield Mesa Mark amp ?

Post by bgh » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:15 pm

Nicklotsaguitars wrote:Is the Express Mark Series? The Nomad 100 had an EQ too.
Sorry if it's a silly question, I genuinely don't know
Both of them have some Mark blood in them, but they are not direct descendants. The Express clean is in the Lone Star family. The Nomad is from the "F" series bloodline.

If I had to make a guess, I would say the Express is more from the Studio/DC/F/Nomad series that it is from the Mark lineage.

I have a Mark series and a Nomad. While they do have some sounds in common, their base is different.

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