My problem with the Mark V design

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Re: My problem with the Mark V design

Post by MrMason » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:57 pm

siggy14 wrote:I am pretty sure it is a series, on all there latest amps besides the original recto's they have been dong series, the roadster, the roadking, the stiletto etc.. I am pretty sure this is series too since there is only a send level and not a return.
MrMason wrote:The problem I have is the damned parallel loop...that's one step backwards; why does Mesa insist on parallel effects loops? No one likes them :roll:
I always thought having any "level" control makes it parallel; series means the effects are completely on, parallel means the effects can be blended with the original tone. There would be no way to control the level on a series loop aside from on the effects themselves.

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Re: My problem with the Mark V design

Post by MrMason » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:59 pm

Octavarius wrote:
MrMason wrote:The problem I have is the damned parallel loop...that's one step backwards; why does Mesa insist on parallel effects loops? No one likes them :roll:
It's a serial loop! The level is only a send level control, not a mix pot. It only adjusts the strength of the loop send signal so you can match it to the input of whatever you were to put in there (e.g. a pro level effects processor, or analog stompbox). :D
So it's more of a gain control then?

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Re: My problem with the Mark V design

Post by sbalderrama » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:10 pm

MrMason wrote: So it's more of a gain control then?
yeah. On the Lonestar you can actually crank the send control enough to overdrive the tube fx buffer and get more overdrive.

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Re: My problem with the Mark V design

Post by MrMason » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:16 pm

sbalderrama wrote:
MrMason wrote: So it's more of a gain control then?
yeah. On the Lonestar you can actually crank the send control enough to overdrive the tube fx buffer and get more overdrive.
I take it back then, the Mark V looks awesome :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: My problem with the Mark V design

Post by simonich » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:01 pm

MrMason wrote:I always thought having any "level" control makes it parallel; series means the effects are completely on, parallel means the effects can be blended with the original tone. There would be no way to control the level on a series loop aside from on the effects themselves.
Nope. Series means there is no blending of the original signal with the effects return signal. i.e. all the "signal" goes out and what comes back in gets fed to the power amp. The level is just like another volume knob. I believe it's designed to allow an easy way to achieve unity gain between the fx off and fx on and/or to set the right level signal to pedal or rack effects.

The lonestar and LSS are examples of series loops that operate this way.
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Re: My problem with the Mark V design

Post by Supreeth » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:15 am

I always get this tingling feeling (in a good way) when a new Mesa amp comes out, and I've been waiting for the Mark 5 for a long time just to see how the Mark series amps evolve. While I truly respect all the comments and arguments regarding what features the amp has/does not have, this is a time for celebration. Let's just toast RCS for his 40 years of achievement, try the amp out first hand, and then start criticizing it. We have no basis for arguing either way till we try out the amp otherwise. C'mon guys, a new Mark is out after 20+ years...let's give it the benefit of the doubt, play the heck out of it at the local guitar center when we have a chance, and then form an opinion about it. All these arguments are moot without trying out the amp IMHO.

I'll probably get flamed for posting this, but till I've tried out the Mark 5 and see how it interacts with my dynamics, how the heck can I form an opinion? Keep your minds free my fellow boogie players!!
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Re: My problem with the Mark V design

Post by Sebby123 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:11 am

I agree i wont comment until i play the damn amp! Plus i want to hear reviews in regards to a comparsion to the iv and see if its worth selling! :)
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Re: My problem with the Mark V design

Post by ANIMATED SUSPENSION » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:35 am

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Re: My problem with the Mark V design

Post by Finnster » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:09 am

Hopefully the reverb will be the quality of the Lonestar's!

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