TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by bandit2013 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:10 pm

Joshwah333 wrote:
Bandit - you are aware of the volume issues I was experiencing with the TC-50. My experience with this amp has taught me the value and very definition of head room. There is a slight possibility something might have been wrong with my TC-50 as well since my Mark V35 sounded and felt louder.

I'm not sure how the power soak feature on the TC-100 works technically, but am hoping that in a 50 watt setting only half the tubes are in use. I already ordered another pair of 6L6's to be able to swap out all 4 and another 12AT7 as a backup.

I will definitely use this on my 2x12 vertical cab, but I've really been loving my straight 4x12 Mesa cab lately. Every amp sounds huge through that cab!

What really made me make the switch was the 20, 7, and 3 watt settings as I'm just now starting to get back into recording. These lower wattage setting will be extremely useful in the recording realm. But man, I cannot wait to hear the 100 watt power tone when it arrives! Especially with the band during rehearsals. I just sent back the TC-50 today via Fed Ex.
I had to look back at your posts, sorry you had a bad deal with your TC-50 not meeting your needs. I was eating crow myself shortly after writhing up my first experience with the TC-50. It did take some time to get used to it. The hard part was sharing the one Vertical 212 cab with the JP-2C. I did not like that amp right out of the box either but that is because I did not realize the amp would be that dark at reduced volumes. One simple trick and Holly S. does that amp sound incredible. I also like the TC-50 just as much but for different reasons. I would say the JP-2C is more for Metal than blues or classic rock and the RA100 fits that category quite well. The TC-50 does have a different Hi gain channel (CH3) compared to the RA100.

I was looking at the TC-100 pictures, Front and Back, and it looks like the power soak is active all the time, or turned off if set to 100W for that selected channel. I can do the same with the RA100 but can also turn it completely off on the front panel. RA100 also has the 100w/off/50W power switch. I did not see that on the TC-100 or any switch to operate at half power (pair of tubes vs full quad). I wonder if the user manual is available. Either way I hope the TC-100 works out for you. If not, get the JP-2C.

The power soak feature appears to be quite similar or the same as the RA100 (it is similar to a load box). I would not doubt it is the same thing as there is a patent on that. The Multi soak feature on the RA100 is given in db. (0db)=100w, (-4db) =75W, (-8db) = 50W, (-12db) = 27W and the last is (-16db)=3W. I would not doubt it is similar to the TC-100 version. I will have to try the 50W power with the multi-soak and see what happens. It has been a while since I powered up either of the RA100's.

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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by bandit2013 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:01 pm

Deadpool_25 wrote:Currently I don’t feel like the TC-50 is lacking in the volume or headroom department so I don’t feel the need to switch at all. Never know down the road though since The Invective is 120 (though it does have a half power mode; haven’t tried that yet).
Do it.... you may be surprised how half power sounds. The only way to get half power from the TC-50 is to swap to 6V6 tubes, definitely worth while too.

the RA100 at 50W (half power and not using the multi soak feature) definitely changes the distortion characteristic. Heck, even the Roadster CH3 on Vintage setting was ideal for leads using 50W setting and rectifier to boot. Sometimes loosing the extra headroom can bring out the sweet spot much easier than running at full power.

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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by bandit2013 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:11 pm

Joshwah333 wrote:Check this out: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TripleCH100

Just bought my TC-50 2 months ago. I knew I should have waited for the next model.

MAJOR FACE PALM!!!
When it comes in, you will gives all a run down on the 100W version of the Triple Crown......

If I get one, I may or may not keep the TC-50. Dang it... a quad of 6V6 tubes would be cool. Wonder if you can mix a pair of 6V6 with EL34 tubes.......Probably not a good idea unless it is stated you can do it. Has anyone seen any videos or sound clips of the new addition? Just curious when that will leak out too. Have not seen a trace of a manual yet.... Just out of curiosity, I think the cat is dead.

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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by Deadpool_25 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:22 am

bandit2013 wrote:Do it.... you may be surprised how half power sounds. The only way to get half power from the TC-50 is to swap to 6V6 tubes, definitely worth while too.

the RA100 at 50W (half power and not using the multi soak feature) definitely changes the distortion characteristic. Heck, even the Roadster CH3 on Vintage setting was ideal for leads using 50W setting and rectifier to boot. Sometimes loosing the extra headroom can bring out the sweet spot much easier than running at full power.
Yeah I really liked the TC-50 with the 6V6s. It’s back to EL34s now. I think I missed the headroom at 50 a little even though I was just at home. Hmmm. TC-100 at 50w with 6V6s? Did we just make up a reason for me to get a 100?? Lol

Yeah I need to switch the Invective to half power just to try it if nothing else. It’s just a simple switch so it’s super easy. The Invective can take a bunch of tube types too (more than the TC officially). Just need to rebias which should also be pretty simple I guess.
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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by domct203 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:51 am

I didn’t see a video on Mesa’s site, but found this on YouTube

https://youtu.be/xVzkXiyRQVE
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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by bandit2013 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:14 pm

That's cooool man.

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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by mace » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:34 am

This forum title should be updated to “Triple Crown” since there is now a family, and not just the TC50.

Thanks for the video link. I’m curious if there isn’t too much overlap between the 50 and 100W models? Why continue to make the 50W version?
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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by domct203 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:54 am

A 50W amp, with it’s smaller iron, feels and plays differently than a ‘hundred watter. If you’ve ever played a Single & Dual Recto back to back (or a Marshall 2203/2204) you’d see what I mean.

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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by bandit2013 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:19 am

I have played the RA100 back to back with the TC-50, they are close enough to compare.

As for the Triple Crown being the main title, I thought that same thing when the Forum was first started as it was stated on Mesa Website, Triple Crown Series (one would think there were going to be others). Cool they came out with the 100W before the lunch box version ( assuming there will be one which may be the rebirth of the Trans Atlantic amps or perhaps not). What has me hooked, it is the same size as the TC-50. If you ever took a look inside the amp, there is plenty of space for larger power supply capacitors (ones used in the 50W are vary small), there is a bank of relays unpopulated as well as the power tube section sits below the preamp board. If mesa does use the same preamp board, it would explain the missing parts.


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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by bandit2013 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:50 am

I did compare the footswitch Midi commands or process numbers and they are the same as the TC-50. Thus I would assume if you had both the TC-100 and the TC-50 you could control both amps with one footswitch if you daisy chain the two amps through the midi ports. Now that would be fun.

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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by bandit2013 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:41 pm

Saw some more video contend on the TC-100 on sweetwater's website. If they had them in stock I would have ordered one. At the moment, I will have to wait until I get back from Vacation to place the order.

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Post by Chester » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:17 am

Manual is out now if you haven't seen it yet :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

http://www.mesaboogie.com/media/User%20 ... wnload.pdf
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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by bandit2013 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:09 am

I am definitely going to get one. Will have to wait until after my Vacation though. No sense in ordering an amp if I will not be there to receive it.

I still plan on using the RA100 and the TC-50. Having two TC's would be cool as long as I remember to order the midi cable to daisy chain the two amps together. Also I am eager to hear what the TC100 would sound like relative to the RA100, even running in parallel. The combined effect of the TC-50 running parallel to the RA100 is awesome. Dang it.... Now what to do with the JP-2C, do I get yet another cabinet? I am running out of room as it is. I do have a traditional sized 412 of lesser quality than a Mesa cab. It is okay but not as good as I would like it to be. May just get a OS Recto 412 straight cab to go with the slant front 412 with the same grill cloth. A full stack.... that would be cool. perhaps that will be my next plan of attack. At least the RA100 would fit on top of the straight a bit better than on top of the slant 412. Too bad the RA100 is so heavy, at least the TC-100 would weigh less to crown of a full stack. So tempting....

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Re: TC-100.......I knew I should have waited!!

Post by jnoel64 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:55 pm

I still haven't run my TC-50 together with my Electra Dyne. I've been meaning to do that for months, but something else always seems to come up. I think those 2 together would pretty much be the end of me, but in a good way!

Honestly, the only thing that would inspire me to get the TC-100 is the attenuator. I have no need for another 100 watt head, but to be able to attenuate it down...well...that's pretty intriguing.
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