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Author:  Zest [ Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:49 am ]
Post subject:  ED Vintage Lo Question

Hi,
I've been considering getting an Electra Dyne. Since I can't try it, I was wondering what you guys think the Vintage Lo channel is most similar to? I was mainly wondering if it's most similar to a JTM45. Also has anyone used the EDwith an attenuator like a Weber Mass?

Thanks,
Zach

Author:  jnoel64 [ Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ED Vintage Lo Question

I've only owned one Marshall, a DSL 401 combo, so I can't speak about "the Marshall sound" with full capacity. But, to me, my Dyne has that older Marshall vibe with a LOT more fullness and richness with the bottom end. It focuses more on the lower mids and is amazing. It's not flubby; it feels like a brick hitting me in the chest. BIG round sound. The Vintage Lo mode is the one I use the most. I don't much care for the Vintage Hi as it feels more compressed than I prefer. To get more gain out of Vintage Lo, I use an Xotic BB Preamp with its gain set at about 9 o'clock and all other knobs at noon. With my amp's gain set at about 1 o'clock, I get the tone I've only heard in my head for years. Speakers are definitely important, too. I don't care for my Dyne through V30s. I much prefer the WGS British Lead speakers. I get a smooth, creamy tone that feels like an endless supply of tonal bliss.

Tubes will also affect your tone. I primarily use Tung-Sol preamp tubes, with the PI slot as the only exception. I use a Sovtek 12AX7LPS there. There are many differing opinions for the power tubes. I currently use Tung-Sol EL34Bs. I've tried Mullard EL34s, and was not as impressed. However, my next experiment will be to use EH 6CA7 power tubes. Those are like a hybrid between EL34 and 6L6. Big bottle EL34 bias, but more 6L6 tone. I've used those tubes in a Carvin Vai Legacy and it felt like the amp was made for those tubes. It's also a nice choice if you can't decide which tone you like better. Sort of like the best of both worlds. I would avoid the JJ 6CA7s, though. From what I've read, they aren't nearly as good as the EH.

I've never used an attenuator with my Dyne. I once owned a Hot Plate, but got rid of it because of how it squeezed the tone out of the amp I used it with. The Dyne really starts to bloom with the master at noon or above. But, that's ear-splitting volume so I almost never get to crank it that high. Instead, I use the output volume of my G-Major 2 to control the volume when it's connected to my effects loop. Some will argue that you still can't get the full bloom of the amp that way, but all I can say is that it sounds better to me.

You can still check out the product demo video on Mesa's site (http://mesaboogie.com/support/out-of-production/electra-dyne.html). It's not the same as in person, but it will get your ears in the ballpark.

Even though I recently got a new Triple Crown 50, my Dyne is still my favorite amp as far as tone goes.

Author:  Zest [ Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ED Vintage Lo Question

Thanks for all of the info. Currently deciding between an Electra Dyne and a TA-30.

Zest

Author:  Eevil [ Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ED Vintage Lo Question

Zest wrote:
Thanks for all of the info. Currently deciding between an Electra Dyne and a TA-30.

Zest


The ED would be my choice... but I made the choice already ;) I was deciding ED, Mini recto or Mark V25 and the ED somehow won me over with lack of buttons and simple workflow...

ED has something going on..

Author:  Zest [ Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ED Vintage Lo Question

Well,
You're right Eevil! Ordered a 1x12 Electra Dyne Combo and will arrive soon!

Zest

Author:  bigboki [ Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ED Vintage Lo Question

Check the comparison ED videos on youtube from https://www.youtube.com/user/haggertysmusic/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYRvBnFIWnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS32gXasQCc

Those videos gave me good idea how amp will sound like, and when I got one, it was exactly what I expected.
I really really like Electradyne - everything on it is for me perfect.

hope this helps

Author:  YellowJacket [ Mon May 08, 2017 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ED Vintage Lo Question

The Electra Dyne is one of my favourite amps I have ever played. To my ear, it sounds like a cross between a superbass and a Mark I.

Vintage low is great because it is so dynamic and go from a full on mid gain rhythm tone to cleans and it sounds good through the entire range.


Has anyone tried the gain trim set to lo / hi for breakup on the clean mode and an alternate clean on vintage lo?

I typically run the volume at 3:00 With the gain trim set to clean and I am abusing the amp with high output pickups.

RE: volume. I use a torpedo live most of the time these days. Best piece of gear I have ever bought

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