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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:28 am 
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Hi, folks. I'm considering buying an Electra Dyne and have one at home for testing. I was looking to test a Boogie again, haven't really tested one since I owned a Mark 3 in the nineties, and some of the Youtube videos out there sold me on the Electra Dyne. I'm after a great sounding amp, preferably a combo, that leans more towards the British than the American for distorted tones, which the ED does. The fact that it has stellar cleans is a great bonus.

The one I'm testing is a 212 combo, and I really like the base tone of this amp. I tested it on a gig yesterday and it sits nicely in the mix, it takes pedals and it's overall a pleasing amp to play.

BUT: the 212 comes with v30s, and I suspect they are not the best match for this amp. To my ears, the V30s enhances some sort of boxiness in the sound, that I wish to get rid of.

So, my question for those that have tested the ED with other speakers, and perpahs tested different speakers: Can you suggest some speakers, perhaps suggesting what it is that you like/dislike with some speakers in combinaton with the ED?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:23 pm 
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I like how the c90 pairs up with the Electra Dyne. It's smoother, meatier, and it gives the amp a really unique voice. 2 c90s or a v30 paired with a c90 is a good starting point.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:11 pm 
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YellowJacket wrote:
I like how the c90 pairs up with the Electra Dyne. It's smoother, meatier, and it gives the amp a really unique voice.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:12 am 
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YellowJacket wrote:
I like how the c90 pairs up with the Electra Dyne. It's smoother, meatier, and it gives the amp a really unique voice. 2 c90s or a v30 paired with a c90 is a good starting point.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:15 am 
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Thanks, I might just try that. Are the c90s for sale just as speakers, without a cabinet?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:38 am 
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I play mine through a 2x12 recto, but I agree that the C90 mates well with it, too.

I also have had great results with my 4x10. Definitely worth a try!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:34 pm 
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boanerges wrote:
Thanks, I might just try that. Are the c90s for sale just as speakers, without a cabinet?


You can order them from Mesa's website if you are in the US.
I suggest trying 1 c90 mixed with a v30 first, and if that doesn't work out and you prefer the c90, then try 2 of them.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:58 pm 
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Actually, that is a cool idea. Not too difficult to flip either of those if you decide to go all C90 or all V30.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:04 pm 
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I tried my Dyne with my RK1 cab and didn't like the combo of the V30 and C90. But, tone is subjective.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:15 pm 
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I'm curious. Did you try with each speaker individually? The RK cab seems like a perfect test fixture for choosing between the two speakers. Unless the cab itself is the problem.

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The RK 2 x 12 is an amazing sounding cab but it is entirely possible that someone would want a different tone from their rig.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:49 am 
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Ok, I just installed a pair of well broken in Scumbacks, an M75/H75 duo, which I find a great combination for Marshall type tones.

So far, I find these speakers a great deal more detailed than the V30s that came with the amp. The V30s sounded duller and harder whereas the Scumbacks seems to bring out the highs in a more detailed, sweeter way. Difficult to describe sounds in words, I know, and my metaphors probably won't make sense outside my own head, but I perceive the difference as warmer, more detailed, more chimey, and with a more pronounced and sweeter top end.

I'll test it in a loud context thru a PA on a gig tonight -- really excited to hear how this sounds through a PA.

A small bonus: the amp is a tad lighter with the Scumbacks. Not exactly a drawback.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:47 am 
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elvis wrote:
I'm curious. Did you try with each speaker individually? The RK cab seems like a perfect test fixture for choosing between the two speakers. Unless the cab itself is the problem.


No, I used the combined speaker option. It's kind of odd. The RK clearly sounds best with its own cab. The cab I use for the Dyne has WGS British Lead speakers in it, and that's the sound I love the most. Smooth and creamy. The RK cab just didn't have what I was used to, or preferred. It's all subjective, I know. Since I purchased the Dyne only as a head, I feel pretty lucky to have found the sound I always wanted with the combination I came up with almost by accident.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:16 pm 
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Is the WGS 'British Lead' similar to a Celestion CL80? I know WGS voices their speakers slightly different to what Celestion does, but I'm curious anyhow. I really like their Reaper HP!

I do like the RK 2 x 12 because of the balanced and tight tone, but the RA 27" 1 x 12 sounds like it was made for the 'Dyne'.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:40 am 
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That's what WGS claims. I've never used the Celestion version, but I dearly LOVE the WGS speakers. They don't color the tone of the amp so much, so some would say they are a little "flat." But the creaminess I get out of my Dyne is the tone I have heard in my head for decades. I wouldn't trade it for much of anything else.

I just acquired a Granger V20 Nitro (http://grangeramp.com/v20.php). I ordered the head, but the combo comes with a standard WGS Reaper. So, I bought a Reaper HP for a 1x12 cab. I didn't much care for it with that head. I switched to an Eminence Texas Heat, didn't like that much, either. Went to the WGS British Lead, stayed there. Many players fail to remember that a lot of your tone comes from the speakers you choose. I'm just thrilled I found what works for me. It only took me 30 years, lol!

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