Dumble ODS or Bludotone Bludo Drive tone out of MARK V?

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Lkdog
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Dumble ODS or Bludotone Bludo Drive tone out of MARK V?

Post by Lkdog » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:46 pm

New (used) Mark V owner. This is amazing amp. Best amp I have ever owned.

Am finding a huge variety of tones in it and learning by trial and error and reading posts here.

I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on getting lower gain (Carlton) D style tone, and also the thicker higher gain ODS tone from the MARK V?

Appreciate any starting pointers you might have.

Here is example of the clean tone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuN6EcoKvX4

Here is example of the overdrive tone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3PRJBIDFoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAhiB_ZqfGQ

Lkdog
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Re: Dumble ODS or Bludotone Bludo Drive tone out of MARK V?

Post by Lkdog » Sat May 06, 2017 6:10 pm

Just checking in.
Anybody have thoughts on this?


Thanks! :mrgreen:

synthetic
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Re: Dumble ODS or Bludotone Bludo Drive tone out of MARK V?

Post by synthetic » Sat May 06, 2017 11:19 pm

I assume Mark 1 mode would be the place to start. Since Carlton used that for so many years and the circuits are reportedly similar. (I don't have my Mark V yet, hopefully in a week.)

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Re: Dumble ODS or Bludotone Bludo Drive tone out of MARK V?

Post by Lkdog » Sun May 07, 2017 10:17 am

synthetic wrote:I assume Mark 1 mode would be the place to start. Since Carlton used that for so many years and the circuits are reportedly similar. (I don't have my Mark V yet, hopefully in a week.)

Thanks for the reply.

Yeah- I can seemingly get in the ballpark in the Mark 1, as well as Mark IIc modes for lower and then added gain.
My main point of reference is modeled Dumble amps in the AXE FX II.

As a newer Mark V owner the various ways the TMB and then EQ and the gain stages interact is still a learning curve for me.

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Re: Dumble ODS or Bludotone Bludo Drive tone out of MARK V?

Post by Newysurfer » Mon May 08, 2017 7:00 am

Lkdog wrote:
synthetic wrote:I assume Mark 1 mode would be the place to start. Since Carlton used that for so many years and the circuits are reportedly similar. (I don't have my Mark V yet, hopefully in a week.)

Thanks for the reply.

Yeah- I can seemingly get in the ballpark in the Mark 1, as well as Mark IIc modes for lower and then added gain.
My main point of reference is modeled Dumble amps in the AXE FX II.

As a newer Mark V owner the various ways the TMB and then EQ and the gain stages interact is still a learning curve for me.

hahaha your main point of ref is a modeled dumble in AXE-FX II and youtube videos.
and what's that - anyone heard it besides you?
does the modeled dumble in Axe-FX sound anything like a real dumble and if so - which dumble tone on which dumble amp?
How would anyone know?
Each Dumble is hand made and sounds different - most will have multiple tones.
Which Carlton tone? - Carlton used many tones on many CDs.
No youtube video is an accurate recording of anything.
You buy a $3000 Mesa tube amp hoping it will sound like something from a modeler and youtube videos - good luck :mrgreen:
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Re: Dumble ODS or Bludotone Bludo Drive tone out of MARK V?

Post by Lkdog » Mon May 08, 2017 10:48 pm

Newysurfer wrote:
Lkdog wrote:
synthetic wrote:I assume Mark 1 mode would be the place to start. Since Carlton used that for so many years and the circuits are reportedly similar. (I don't have my Mark V yet, hopefully in a week.)

Thanks for the reply.

Yeah- I can seemingly get in the ballpark in the Mark 1, as well as Mark IIc modes for lower and then added gain.
My main point of reference is modeled Dumble amps in the AXE FX II.

As a newer Mark V owner the various ways the TMB and then EQ and the gain stages interact is still a learning curve for me.

hahaha your main point of ref is a modeled dumble in AXE-FX II and youtube videos.
and what's that - anyone heard it besides you?
does the modeled dumble in Axe-FX sound anything like a real dumble and if so - which dumble tone on which dumble amp?
How would anyone know?
Each Dumble is hand made and sounds different - most will have multiple tones.
Which Carlton tone? - Carlton used many tones on many CDs.
No youtube video is an accurate recording of anything.
You buy a $3000 Mesa tube amp hoping it will sound like something from a modeler and youtube videos - good luck :mrgreen:

Really helpful. :roll:

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Re: Dumble ODS or Bludotone Bludo Drive tone out of MARK V?

Post by griff3 » Thu May 25, 2017 2:17 am

Lkdog wrote:New (used) Mark V owner. This is amazing amp. Best amp I have ever owned.

Am finding a huge variety of tones in it and learning by trial and error and reading posts here.

I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on getting lower gain (Carlton) D style tone, and also the thicker higher gain ODS tone from the MARK V?

Appreciate any starting pointers you might have.

Here is example of the clean tone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuN6EcoKvX4

Here is example of the overdrive tone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3PRJBIDFoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAhiB_ZqfGQ
Having played a few Dumble ODS amps over the years (never a Bludotone, but I hear they are similar) and currently owning a Two Rock Emerald Pro (which is pretty Dumbley) I can tell you that it's a challenge to get that tone anywhere else (as you can probably imagine.)

I never had much luck with Mark I mode - it's not my thing and I don't really use it. Maybe you can get those tones out of it, but I can't.

I get closest with Tweed mode on channel 1. It cleans up beautifully with the gain lower (below 10:00) and has a bit more round mids which is something that sets the Dumble clean apart from a Fender blackface type of clean.

I've not really tried to get that type of overdrive tone out of my Mark V, but I've got a lot of hours on that amp getting other tones. If I had to nail the tone you posted, I'd use a pedal (Zendrive, Simble, Ethos) into the Tweed clean to get it probably.

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Re: Dumble ODS or Bludotone Bludo Drive tone out of MARK V?

Post by Lkdog » Sat May 27, 2017 3:41 am

griff3 wrote:
Lkdog wrote:New (used) Mark V owner. This is amazing amp. Best amp I have ever owned.

Am finding a huge variety of tones in it and learning by trial and error and reading posts here.

I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on getting lower gain (Carlton) D style tone, and also the thicker higher gain ODS tone from the MARK V?

Appreciate any starting pointers you might have.

Here is example of the clean tone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuN6EcoKvX4

Here is example of the overdrive tone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3PRJBIDFoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAhiB_ZqfGQ
Having played a few Dumble ODS amps over the years (never a Bludotone, but I hear they are similar) and currently owning a Two Rock Emerald Pro (which is pretty Dumbley) I can tell you that it's a challenge to get that tone anywhere else (as you can probably imagine.)

I never had much luck with Mark I mode - it's not my thing and I don't really use it. Maybe you can get those tones out of it, but I can't.

I get closest with Tweed mode on channel 1. It cleans up beautifully with the gain lower (below 10:00) and has a bit more round mids which is something that sets the Dumble clean apart from a Fender blackface type of clean.

I've not really tried to get that type of overdrive tone out of my Mark V, but I've got a lot of hours on that amp getting other tones. If I had to nail the tone you posted, I'd use a pedal (Zendrive, Simble, Ethos) into the Tweed clean to get it probably.
Thanks for the info.
I have been actually messing around with the Tweed mode lately and am surprised at the versatility.
As for the D style OD sound, am experimenting with the Mark I and II modes at various settings.
May never quite get there but it is fun trying.
I got a few tips from an amp designer who like you has played Dumbles, and also has worked on Mark V amps a lot.
He suggested keeping Bass lower and working with the midrange.

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