MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by Dreamtheaterrules » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:36 am

Cool! And welcome to the board.
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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by homesick345 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:19 am

Dreamtheaterrules wrote:Cool! And welcome to the board.
Thanks - I got many ideas about this beautiful little amp :)

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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by homesick345 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:14 am

Dreamtheaterrules wrote:FYI, those settings are VERY nice! But (maybe because it's a Tele forum) I needed a bit more treble or presence. The pic posted was low volume. Turning the master up really opens the amp up and fills out the lows so some more treble or presence was needed when I tried it with my PRS NF3.

This is great though. A little more gain and/or a switch to MIV and it REALLY sings. As mentioned in the linked thread, Santana tones are a few minor tweaks. This IS pretty cool. Thanks for posting it.
Most welcome. I added a sound clip

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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by Dreamtheaterrules » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:58 pm

Couple more days of experimenting from this base. There are some great tones of the D style just a tweak or two from the base settings listed. Some really cool stuff! Switch to Mark IV and add a little gain... add just a bit of treble and/or presence... WOW! Back to Xtreme, and more open/less compressed. Killer, and so far, I've only tried it with a Mini Rec 1x12/v30 over Thiele/C90 stack.

I'm thinking this would kill for these type tones with my Red Fang Alnico.... hmmm, why did that just now occur to me? IT's way too late to try it now. :roll:
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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by Rob9874 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:02 pm

New member here. Just bought a Mark V 25 last night, first time owning a Boogie. Won't gush about how great the amp sounds, as you already know. So excited to spend the weekend getting to know it. Read through this thread and already have my Mesa 12AX7 on order to put in the V2 position. Looking forward to being an active member of this forum.

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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by Dreamtheaterrules » Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:12 am

Welcome to the board. Hope that was a typo and you ordered a 12AT7. It already has a 12AX7 in it, so that would only be a spare.

If you did order an AT7, I strongly urge you to play the amp a LOT before doing the swap. Get to know it inside out. There's an amazing amount of tonal and gain variation in that amp. The AT7 changes only the Crunch mode on C1, and then all three modes on C2. I always say don't change anything until you know it intimately, and Mesa amps are a bit harder to get to know intimately than most. Then, when you try it, you'll know what is changed. And don't just try your favorite settings, swap the tube and think that is an accurate comparison. Some of the sweet spots on the knobs change, and some have a bigger range. Dial around.
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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by Rob9874 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:26 am

Yes, that was a typo. I had to check my order email from Sweetwater to confirm. Definitely 12AT7.

Thanks for the advice. I'll get to know the amp for a while before swapping. I'm enjoying it so much as is, I'm in no rush to make improvements. Just heard everyone here gush about the swap, I figured it was worth trying.

I'm coming from a Line 6 Bogner Spider Valve 112. Could never dial in anything close to the tone I had in my head. I tried the Amplitube suite on my laptop. That sounded better, but still not what I wanted, plus it's a hassle to have to get the laptop out in addition to my amp when I wanted to play (got the iPad version too). More recently, I got the Line 6 Amplifi FX100 pedal board, thinking I could have more control over the effects than the ones on board on my amp. Nope, sucked too. Then my buddy told me to check out the Mark V 25. Kinda pricey, but not outrageous. I'm so glad he did. Just from my limited exposure I've had with it, the tone is already leaps and bounds better than all the other contraptions I've been trying to fool myself would sound similar. Just spend the money, and get the real thing. I still have to pinch myself when I remember I'm a Mesa Boogie owner. I'm looking forward to how much more I'm going to enjoy it when I get to know it better and start dialing it in.

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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by homesick345 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:45 am

Dreamtheaterrules wrote:Couple more days of experimenting from this base. There are some great tones of the D style just a tweak or two from the base settings listed. Some really cool stuff! Switch to Mark IV and add a little gain... add just a bit of treble and/or presence... WOW! Back to Xtreme, and more open/less compressed. Killer, and so far, I've only tried it with a Mini Rec 1x12/v30 over Thiele/C90 stack.

I'm thinking this would kill for these type tones with my Red Fang Alnico.... hmmm, why did that just now occur to me? IT's way too late to try it now. :roll:
The Red Fang is a fantastic speaker - but D Tones require a neutralish kind of speaker. Red Fang has TOO effin much personality :)

No harm in trying - but don't be surprised if things are too edgy

You want a warm, almost dark, tight middy speaker

GOOD LUCK MATE

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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by Copper » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:10 am

Also a new Mark V 25 user and board member. I tried out everything I could for lower wattage amps and I really liked this the most. Also tried out the JVM and others since it was in the price range but enjoyed the features more on here.

Honeymoon really does involve some ocd (not the pedal) tinkering. Really love the sounds and pretty much coming close or nailing anything I want.
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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by Copper » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:21 pm

My first tone setting for Metallica's Ride the Lightning:

Mark IIC+
Gain dimed
Treble 2 o clock
Mid 10:30
Bass 12:30
Presence 8:30

V eq with 750 slightly scooped.

Hitting Creeping Death on my SG gave me chills. Can't say enough how cool it is how close this amp can dial in sounds you want. I am slowly beating the one channel plug and play out of myself. I really need a chorus pedal and the mxr 10 to go with it now.
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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by 31220 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:14 am

Hi, all. I'm new to the forum. I just bought a Mark Five: 25 about 2 weeks ago and was looking all over the web for settings. I ran across the V2 swap to a 12AT7 on this thread and all I can say is: WOW! I've only been messing with this for a couple hours thus far, so more to come.

The amp sounded great out of the box, but I find the 12AT7 to be a more pleasant overall tone. The swap let's me get more use out of all channel 2 settings too. Plus, I get to keep the channel 1 tones intact on the Fat setting. Channel 1 Crunch is now even better.

For the record, I'm using a JJ 12AT7 in V2 since it's all I had on hand. Not sure if others have tried different non-Mesa 12AT7s or not. All other tubes are stock.

I just sold my Friedman Runt 20 to fund the Mark Five: 25 purchase and I have no regrets thus far. It's more to my liking for blues, R&B, classic rock, and metal.
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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by Rob9874 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:55 pm

I swapped out the V2 today. I hope I swapped the correct one. Check out the photo below. The diagram from my manual doesn't match my amp layout. I have the amp facing the same direction of the diagram, with the front of the chassis at the top, and the 2 power amp tubes at the bottom. Based on that, I swapped the middle pre-amp tube at the top, which the diagram denotes as V2.

However, the large transformers (??) in my amp are opposite of the diagram. Can anyone confirm that V2 is the middle tube, closest to the front of the chassis?

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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by Rob9874 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:01 pm

On a separate topic, on Channel 2, my low strings palm-muted sound real muddy. To fix it, I have to turn the bass knob all the way down. I can use the bass on the EQ and it sounds good, but wonder why I have to have the bass knob all the way down. I'm using gain around 2:00-3:00. Wonder if it's my pickup, pickup height, or if something could be wrong with the speaker. I'm playing it through a slanted 1x12 Mesa cab. Anyone else have issues with using the bass knob on Channel 2?

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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by 31220 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:47 pm

Rob9874 wrote:I swapped out the V2 today. I hope I swapped the correct one. Check out the photo below. The diagram from my manual doesn't match my amp layout. I have the amp facing the same direction of the diagram, with the front of the chassis at the top, and the 2 power amp tubes at the bottom. Based on that, I swapped the middle pre-amp tube at the top, which the diagram denotes as V2.

However, the large transformers (??) in my amp are opposite of the diagram. Can anyone confirm that V2 is the middle tube, closest to the front of the chassis?

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Rob9874, yes you swapped the correct tube. The diagram in the manual shows the orientation of the amp as it sits when in the amp's cabinet--not when removed and upside down. Hope that makes sense. I too was confused by the diagram. It would have been nice if Mesa had a diagram for the amp upside down (like you and I had it when removed.)

As for your issues with channel 2 bass, I haven't experienced what you are talking about, but that may be down to different equipment.
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Re: MARK FIVE 25 TONE SETTINGS THREAD

Post by orionz06 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:44 pm

Rob9874 wrote:On a separate topic, on Channel 2, my low strings palm-muted sound real muddy. To fix it, I have to turn the bass knob all the way down. I can use the bass on the EQ and it sounds good, but wonder why I have to have the bass knob all the way down. I'm using gain around 2:00-3:00. Wonder if it's my pickup, pickup height, or if something could be wrong with the speaker. I'm playing it through a slanted 1x12 Mesa cab. Anyone else have issues with using the bass knob on Channel 2?

That doesn't sound outrageous.

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