Speaker swap in LSS

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Speaker swap in LSS

Post by bushwackbob » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:35 am

I do not use the LSS outside of my home so it is used at lower volume and I use it primarily with a 335-like guitar. Has anyone swapped out the 12" Black Shadow to get a jazzier and/or "fuller" sound, particularly at lower/practice volume, than one gets with the Black Shadow? Appreciate any thoughts.

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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by knotts » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:39 am

I think your best option is the Celestion Gold. I have only heard good things through research, but haven't done this myself. Most of the gripes I've heard from people is the price.
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by jmontgomery » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:07 pm

The only answer to the question is Celestion Gold.
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by Crowey » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:50 pm

jmontgomery wrote:The only answer to the question is Celestion Gold.
Specifically? Or for all styles & guitars? I have a strat and 2 x 12 - with a preference for blues and blues rock. Still a the Gold, or perhaps 1 x blue and 1 x gold?
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by jmontgomery » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:28 pm

I have heard people like the pairing of a Weber Silver bell and a Weber blue bell. I've also seen a 2x12 "Tone Kit" that Eminence sells that has two different models of their speakers. Maybe a Greenback paired with the Gold.
My LSS is a1x12 and the Gold is a perfect match. Blues and rock are the styles I play also.
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by Crowey » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:02 am

jmontgomery wrote:I have heard people like the pairing of a Weber Silver bell and a Weber blue bell. I've also seen a 2x12 "Tone Kit" that Eminence sells that has two different models of their speakers. Maybe a Greenback paired with the Gold.
My LSS is a1x12 and the Gold is a perfect match. Blues and rock are the styles I play also.
Thanks mate, all food for thought. I'm a god-awful guitarist but I like to have (within reason) good quality stuff, so I'm always looking to optimise my kit. :)
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by jmontgomery » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:10 am

Here is a link to a Celestion tone kit:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... peaker-set

There was also an Eminence tone kit that I heard good things about on that site.
I like the Gold so much that if I had a 2x12 I'd be tempted to stick two Blues in there.
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by jmontgomery » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:14 am

Here's the Eminence kit I've heard good things about:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... peaker-kit

There was a thread I saw here in the Lonestar section where someone bought a mismatched set of WharehouseSpeakers. It might be worth finding and PMing the person who posted about them.
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by jmontgomery » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:19 am

Crowey wrote:
Thanks mate, all food for thought. I'm a god-awful guitarist but I like to have (within reason) good quality stuff, so I'm always looking to optimise my kit. :)

I had to quote this because you described me to a tee. Being in my mid 40s and starting late I don't know if I'll ever be a good player. But, I like sounding good while playing awful :lol:
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by Crowey » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:27 am

jmontgomery wrote:
Crowey wrote:
Thanks mate, all food for thought. I'm a god-awful guitarist but I like to have (within reason) good quality stuff, so I'm always looking to optimise my kit. :)
I had to quote this because you described me to a tee. Being in my mid 40s and starting late I don't know if I'll ever be a good player. But, I like sounding good while playing awful :lol:
Maybe its an age thing ... I'm early 50s and only started about 7-8 years ago. I'll never have much in the way of chops, so I figure the best I can ever hope for is to follow Hound Dog Taylor's adage "They might say I played like sh!t, but I sure made it sound good" (or words to that effect). Mind you if I can ever boogie half as good as him I'd be over the moon.
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by jmontgomery » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:59 am

Love it. I may have to use Hound Dogs quote in my sig.
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by vanceen » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:33 am

The Celestion Gold does sound great with the LSS; I have one that I use in an extension cabinet.

But be aware that it it a LOUD speaker. If you want to keep the volume down, you might try a Celestion Creamback. It's rated at 97 dB SPL compared to 100 dB SPL for the Gold. The Gold at 15W will have about the same perceived loudness as the Creamback at 30W.

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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by bushwackbob » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:30 pm

Update: I put in a Celestian Gold. It is louder than and more "full range" than the Black Shadow. I am trying to get a lot of time on it to help break it in. I am hoping for less high frequency output once it has some time on it. Even stock it is better (to me) than the Black Shadow, which I found a bit muddy.

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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by jmontgomery » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:51 pm

I'll bet that once it breaks in a bit you'll never take it out.
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Re: Speaker swap in LSS

Post by BluesAndBooze » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:22 pm

Celestion Golds are cool and easiest way to run them in is loop in something like 16GB iPod and let it run, and they do change in getting smoother mids less brittle top end and more bottomy.
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