Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

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Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by gregrjones » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:16 am

I love my Lone Star and never bought it to be a high gain machine, but if I want to get more diversity out of this beast, is there a really great high gain distortion pedal that any of you would recommend that gets a great tone out of the amp?

The Vox Saturator looks interesting to me, but I've never tried it out....

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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by Mork » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:28 am

I use a Boss SD-1, not set very high but it really livens thing up.
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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by lonestarpaul » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:00 pm

...right now I'd say the Wampler Triple Wreck. I haven't tried it yet but it sounds like a beast, plus it's designed to "emulate" the sound of a Rectifier more or less, so you can get both sides of Mesa keeping one of their greatest amps so far.

Have a look! :wink:

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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by SyKrash » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:05 am

hitting the front end with an overdrive pedal helps. On the pedal turn down the gain, turn up the volume. Turns the LSC into a mid-high gain wrecking machine.

I use either an RC booster or BB preamp.

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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by FunkyMonkey » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:22 pm

I've been using the BB pre-amp for about 18 months with my LSC and its well worth a look. I went with this over a Tubescreamer as I thought it was more transparent (to my ears). I don't play much high gain stuff but it is a great pedal for giving the front end a bit of a kick when you need it.

Lots of variety of tones and an active EQ. Also works well as a clean boost with the gain right down.

Mine is set so that is gives me some crunch on the clean channel and kicks the front end of ch2 when I need a little extra! (Gain and Drive set to 2:30)

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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by jjboogie » Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:00 pm

I have yet to get a high gain sound that I am truly happy with using pedals and the LSC.....it is great for low gain but not built for high gain. The higher the gain I go with pedals and this amp the less tight the response is....just doesn't feel right.

I am hoping to get a Mark V soon.

I absolutely love the LSC for what it was made to do though!

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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by lonestarpaul » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:26 pm

jjboogie wrote:I have yet to get a high gain sound that I am truly happy with using pedals and the LSC.....it is great for low gain but not built for high gain. The higher the gain I go with pedals and this amp the less tight the response is....just doesn't feel right.

I am hoping to get a Mark V soon.

I absolutely love the LSC for what it was made to do though!
...true that...I get pretty good results pushing my LSC with a Fulltone Fat Boost 3, a Xotic AC Booster and a Fulltone OCD v3 but I cannot really say what comes out is a "high gain" tone. Probably I'm gonna try the Wampler Triple Wreck as soon as I can just to see if I can break the "wall" between the sound I get now and what I call "high gain", but honestly I dream about a rig where I can switch between my LSC for clean and low/mid-gain tones and a high-gain beast like a Bogner or a Diezel...that would be awesome for me and I think it would be the only way to preserve and valorize the nature of the Lonestar itself.

Ok, I can go back to sleep now!!! :lol:
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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by Mork » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:56 am

jjboogie wrote:I am hoping to get a Mark V soon.
Jason... I've already got mine :wink:
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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by jjboogie » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:31 am

Mork wrote:
jjboogie wrote:I am hoping to get a Mark V soon.
Jason... I've already got mine :wink:

Thanks a lot bro! Way to rub it in! :wink:

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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by lostcause » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:51 am

Ive been getting some great results and having fun using the Blackstar HT-Dual on the clean ch of the LS.
Its not the most transparent pedal Ive used when activated but in someways thats part of the reason it works for me. It makes the LS not sound like a LS when its switched on. It tightens up the bass and adds its own flavour.
I can use ch1 on the LS as a nice clean and ch 2 as a just breaking up bluesy funky ch and then the HT-Dual gives me two extra ch of usable high gain with a slightly different voice. Pretty happy. YMMV.

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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by Quetapasao » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:53 pm

Check out the Riot pedal from John Suhr . It seems that it can turn a clean amp into a high gain machine. There are a couple demos on youtube .

http://www.suhrguitars.com/effects.aspx?series=riot

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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by SyKrash » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:38 pm

Quetapasao wrote:Check out the Riot pedal from John Suhr . It seems that it can turn a clean amp into a high gain machine. There are a couple demos on youtube .

http://www.suhrguitars.com/effects.aspx?series=riot
If you can find one. I'd have an easier time finding a leprechaun riding a unicorn than finding a Suhr Riot in stock anywhere.

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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by lonestarpaul » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:28 pm

SyKrash wrote:
Quetapasao wrote:Check out the Riot pedal from John Suhr . It seems that it can turn a clean amp into a high gain machine. There are a couple demos on youtube .

http://www.suhrguitars.com/effects.aspx?series=riot
If you can find one. I'd have an easier time finding a leprechaun riding a unicorn than finding a Suhr Riot in stock anywhere.
lol :lol:

Anyway the pedal sounds pretty good...wonder how it compares to a Fulltone OCD v3 (HP mode) like the one I have on my board right now. That one's a very hot box too, but I wouldn't really call it high gain while for example the Triple Wreck from Wampler seems to break that "wall" between an overdriven tone (even a very hot one) and what I have in mind if I think to "high gain" (for ex. the 3rd channel of a Diezel VH4 or a Bogner Uberschall, just to mention a couple).

Anyone who tried these pedals, hopefully in conjunction with the Lonestar?
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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by ryjan » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:31 pm

This is killing me. All us Mark amp guys want Lonestar cleans. Now the Lonestar guys want Mark series gain. :lol: Big +1 on the BB preamp.
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Re: Getting High Gain out of Lone Star

Post by Quetapasao » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:44 am

SyKrash wrote:
Quetapasao wrote:Check out the Riot pedal from John Suhr . It seems that it can turn a clean amp into a high gain machine. There are a couple demos on youtube .

http://www.suhrguitars.com/effects.aspx?series=riot
If you can find one. I'd have an easier time finding a leprechaun riding a unicorn than finding a Suhr Riot in stock anywhere.

Well , if it's a matter of finding , boss metal-zone is an easy one to find :lol:

Let's wait a little bit after Namm !

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