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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:18 am 
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Had a 5:25+ a couple of weeks and I like it but I am finding that there is a spiky brittle edge to the high end that I can't seem to dial out no matter how much I try. My Les Paul sounds better with it than my single coil Fenders, the Strat on the bridge pickup especially sounds very harsh.

I'm wondering if it's a characteristic of the V30? I like rest of the core amp tone just want a less glassy and shrill top end. Is there a speaker you can recommend? What about a Celestion Creamback M65?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:53 pm 
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It seems about 50/50 on the V30 and the Express 5 25+. I have tried Eminence Cannabis Rex, Tone Tubby Purple Haze and Tone Tubby Winterland. The Winterland is a bit louder and more forward than the Purple if you need a little more clean volume. I think I will switch back to the Purple, has a nice chime.

The Creamback and other speakers are certainly worth trying.

How loud do you play, what size room? The V30 may do better in a big space. Or after being pounded awhile.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:54 am 
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I switched the V30 in mine for a Texas Heat. I've had TH's before in other amps, and they've always sounded great. You can check the description from the Eminence web site, I feel that's pretty accurate.

Anyway, the result was pretty much what you would expect: The spikiness of the V30 was gone, and the sound became more balanced without being dull. More warmth but still a good amount of bite.

Overall I feel that a V30 is just not a good choice for a small 1x12 combo, which is bound to sound boxy and nasal anyway. The V30 just makes these qualities more obvious.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:58 pm 
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As one of the "not a V30" people, I've ended up with it back in my amp. I was speaker swapping on my MKIIA and really liked the Winterland, so there it stays.

Using a 1x12 cab that it easy to swap speakers, I went through all combinations. The V30 is certainly efficient and sounds great OKIN Burn mode. What is different is me using the EQ differently. Was going to put the Tone Tubby Purple Haze back in but too much trouble to change and the V30 is sounding good.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:33 pm 
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Considering that the V30 is the staple of modern amplification and the speaker of choice, that generally applies to a closed back or sealed cabinet. I have never been fond of the V30 with a ported back or open back format. It can sound a bit fizzy and not as rewarding. There are other speaker choices one could choose from. I am surprised that Mesa is using the V30 in this platform. The MC90 has a warmer tone and is more suitable for an open back combo or cab. Then there is the Fillmore speaker that Mesa uses in the Recto-Verb 25. Both of which would be a good alternative to the V30 for the open back combo. Another alternative that works with similar character but no fizz for open back combo is the Celestion G12H75 Creamback. You could probably also go with a Greenback too but a bit close on the power rating of the amp. Celestion Alnico Gold would probably work too as well as the Alnico Cream but keep in mind that the bell is very large (especially on the Cream 90W version). If I had a preference it would be for the Cream Alnico 90W Celestion speaker as that was so rewarding in my Mark V until I blew it out with the JP-2C (oops), also has a bit of high frequency roll off but not as dramatic as some other speakers I have tried. For simplicity, either the Fillmore or MC90 would be a good choice.

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