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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 12:57 pm 
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Hi.

I've got an Express 2:25 Plus, which I run my Fender Strat and Ibanez AR420 through. I've gotten some nice sounds, but many of the vids on Youtube sound much better. I'm comparing the recorded sound on Youtube with my amp-in-the-room sound at home, which isn't necessarily a fair comparison, but anyway: How are amp-in-the-room sounds other board members are getting - are the sounds as good as those vids on Youtube?

For example, I love the sound the Mesa guy Peter has on his guitar in the jam at https://youtu.be/Nz3gHJ73P48?t=4m51s, and I'm not even close using my Fender Strat. Have others here gotten sounds close to that, and if so care to share their settings?

Another example is the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WXpMOObjac video. I love both the clean and gain sound, but are nowhere close to those sounds on my strat.


Greetings, Kenneth


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:22 pm 
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If Im tracking what your asking- the answer is that they are actually mic-ing the cab and doing some slight post production on the audio - often times even double tracking the guitars and they either video record their performance as they are tracking or simply do a guitarist version of Lip-singing along with the already-recorded and produced track.
And finally they simply sync the produced audio with the video and all of a sudden magic happens.
Hope this kinda answers your question- further more- what you hear when your jamming in your room and what it sounds like being captured from a microphone are 2 slightly different monsters.

Additionally- I don't have a Strat but what I can tell you is that often times when these folks are recording or doing these demo's they dial back on the bass controls and generally increase the mids- it will sound kind of brash to the naked ear but by the time that sound gets processed via microphones and pre-amps and all that jazz it really stands out

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 7:57 am 
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here are some of my heavy tones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipPNoGjyAYQ

it sounds even better in my garage....you need to tweak, get the right pickups and most important - a cab/speakers...btw close micing always sounds a bit different then live room sound :)

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 10:03 am 
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Thanks for the replies.

BeltFedRiffs wrote:
If Im tracking what your asking- the answer is that they are actually mic-ing the cab and doing some slight post production on the audio - often times even double tracking the guitars and they either video record their performance as they are tracking or simply do a guitarist version of Lip-singing along with the already-recorded and produced track.
And finally they simply sync the produced audio with the video and all of a sudden magic happens.
Hope this kinda answers your question- further more- what you hear when your jamming in your room and what it sounds like being captured from a microphone are 2 slightly different monsters.

Additionally- I don't have a Strat but what I can tell you is that often times when these folks are recording or doing these demo's they dial back on the bass controls and generally increase the mids- it will sound kind of brash to the naked ear but by the time that sound gets processed via microphones and pre-amps and all that jazz it really stands out


That's good to hear. It'll be fun to mic up my amp and do some recording, and see how it sounds. Hopefully mic'ing the amp for a live show sounds great too.

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here are some of my heavy tones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipPNoGjyAYQ

it sounds even better in my garage....you need to tweak, get the right pickups and most important - a cab/speakers...btw close micing always sounds a bit different then live room sound :)


That's a really nice tone. What kind of speakers/cabinet did you use for that clip?


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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 6:32 am 
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kenneho wrote:
Thanks for the replies.



Krek13 wrote:
here are some of my heavy tones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipPNoGjyAYQ

it sounds even better in my garage....you need to tweak, get the right pickups and most important - a cab/speakers...btw close micing always sounds a bit different then live room sound :)


That's a really nice tone. What kind of speakers/cabinet did you use for that clip?


no cab, I'm using weber mass lite attenuator's line out into usb interface, then I load vst cab sim in my DAW.

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 11:38 am 
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Krek13 wrote:
kenneho wrote:
Thanks for the replies.



Krek13 wrote:
here are some of my heavy tones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipPNoGjyAYQ

it sounds even better in my garage....you need to tweak, get the right pickups and most important - a cab/speakers...btw close micing always sounds a bit different then live room sound :)


That's a really nice tone. What kind of speakers/cabinet did you use for that clip?


no cab, I'm using weber mass lite attenuator's line out into usb interface, then I load vst cab sim in my DAW.


I see. Works really well, you've got an excellent tone.


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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 6:44 am 
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kenneho wrote:
Hi.

I've got an Express 2:25 Plus, which I run my Fender Strat and Ibanez AR420 through. I've gotten some nice sounds, but many of the vids on Youtube sound much better. I'm comparing the recorded sound on Youtube with my amp-in-the-room sound at home, which isn't necessarily a fair comparison, but anyway: How are amp-in-the-room sounds other board members are getting - are the sounds as good as those vids on Youtube?

For example, I love the sound the Mesa guy Peter has on his guitar in the jam at https://youtu.be/Nz3gHJ73P48?t=4m51s, and I'm not even close using my Fender Strat. Have others here gotten sounds close to that, and if so care to share their settings?

Another example is the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WXpMOObjac video. I love both the clean and gain sound, but are nowhere close to those sounds on my strat.


Greetings, Kenneth


well Kenneth you obviously have a totally different sound perception than I or other musicians.
I've never heard of anyone else preferring any youtube recording sound quality to the real thing.
What most people (including myself) constantly note is the consistently poor audio quality of all youtube videos.
They are all very low-fi & highly compressed for good & unavoidable reasons of course.
They are so distorted in fact that few sound similar to the actual source.

Do you also prefer
- mp3 recordings to CDs
- el cheapo earplugs to pro quality headphones.
- multi effect modellers to tube amps.
- hand held ghetto blasters to $2000 plus hi-fi equipment :mrgreen:

You've said
"For example, I love the sound the Mesa guy Peter has on his guitar in the jam at https://youtu.be/Nz3gHJ73P48?t=4m51s, and I'm not even close using my Fender Strat. Have others here gotten sounds close to that, and if so care to share their settings?"

Answer - No I've never got sounds close to that video and hope I never do hehe
It's impossible to sound like that live with a good tube amp imo.
You might get closer with a $50 solid state no name amp.
But the only place you can sound like that is on a youtube video :mrgreen:

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