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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:42 pm 
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Hey all, don't post here much, but sure have fun lurking (and learning all things Boogie)!

I was thinking about MkIII years/stripe-sequence/serial numbers the other day, and think that I may have an odd-ball. My MkIII is one of the early ones (which supposedly are usually "no stripe" or "black dot"?) from late '85 or early '86, and has the serial number 16861. However, it's a blue stripe head, and the blue stripe serial numbers I've found on the net range from 22245 to 27129.

My head (and matching EV12L cab) is a short one in imbuya and wicker, older "boogie" logo, simul-class, rev, eq, and international transformer. I've owned it since 2000, but the original owner had Mike B install a channel 2 "gain boost" mod that is footswitchable, or can be manually activated by a mini toggle on the back/underside of the head. The extra input jack for the footswitch is stamped "GB" (gain boost), and there is a third pot on the back of the head next to the presence and verb pots to adjust the amount of extra gain in channel 2.

Was wondering if any of you fine and knowledgable folks own a blue-stripe MkIII with a low serial number, or if any of you have ever seen the channel 2 gain boost mod. It's possible that the previous owner had Mike B turn it into a blue stripe when he did the mod.

Anyway, the head completely rocks. Here's a crappy photo of her in between some other junk.

Boogie-on!, Johnny

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:06 am 
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Great amp.

Mesa can basically mod your MK III to whatever stripe you want, so it is not impossible that yours was upgraded from to a blue stripe. A gain mod is not really difficult, but is it on the lead mode or R2? You can add gain to both.
The easiest way to see what was done is to call Mesa CS and ask them if there was ever an RA/Return Authorization on your amp. If it was post 1990 that the work was done they would have the bill on file in there data base.
For example, one of my amps was pulled up under the serial number and I was told that the mid pot and the lead channel LDR was replaced as well as a full retube in 1989.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:07 am 
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Boogiebabies wrote:
Great amp.

Mesa can basically mod your MK III to whatever stripe you want, so it is not impossible that yours was upgraded from to a blue stripe. A gain mod is not really difficult, but is it on the lead mode or R2? You can add gain to both.
The easiest way to see what was done is to call Mesa CS and ask them if there was ever an RA/Return Authorization on your amp. If it was post 1990 that the work was done they would have the bill on file in there data base.
For example, one of my amps was pulled up under the serial number and I was told that the mid pot and the lead channel LDR was replaced as well as a full retube in 1989.


Boogiebabies, thanks for your reply! Actually, it's a channel 2 gain boost mod, not a lead channel mod. Don't have a photo of the rear panel with me at the moment (I'm in Japan, the amp is in L.A.), but the mod is very cool and I have never read here (or at other amp sites) about a gain boost mod. I read here alot about channel 2 vol mods.

As you look at the back of the chassis, there is a mini toggle modded to the underside between the far left EL34 and the left-side 6L6. Below the small-size reverb and presence pots is a matching 3rd pot (in an upside-down triangular layout) to adjust the amount of extra gain to channel two. Near the serial number is the added footswitch jack, factory stamped G.B. for gain boost. Interestingly, that G.B. is stamped "into" the black back of the chassis...and looks as if it was done when the amp was originally built (maybe a special order by the original owner). I say that because the black paint (or pwdercoating...whatever it is) is not chipped or retouched, like it might be if Mike B had embossed it into the chassis at a later date. But, I don't know.

Back in 2003 I was finishing school at Berkeley and drove over to Petaluma to have Mike go through the amp. He replaced some caps and threw me a few new tubes, and even said he remembered the amp (!). However, I failed to ask when the G.B. mod was done...and hadn't even considered the "blue stripe" question at that time. So, they have my servicing on file now, but I'll have to call Mesa CS and ask them if there was ever an RA/Return Authorization on my amp post 1990. Great advice! Thanks! And, interesting to know that there are other gain boost-modded Boogies in the world.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:29 pm 
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Anybody have any pointers to info on how to reduce gain for R2?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:27 pm 
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Maybe the R2Vol mod will help?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:31 pm 
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It looks to be beyond my feeble understanding of how these things work so i'm going to stop trying & just save the coin to have MB do it.

thanks y'all.


update: Turns out the later model M III's engage the treble "pull-shift" when ch2 is on. MB turned this off for me & it sounds much better to my ears.



igfraso wrote:
Maybe the R2Vol mod will help?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:05 pm 
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That's the proper thing to do.
Mike B. will surely recommend the R2 volume and the reverb mods.

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boogiemon wrote:
Anybody have any pointers to info on how to reduce gain for R2?


Use R1 :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:21 am 
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I have no idea about this before! thanks for new facts every day!

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