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 Post subject: Mesa Boogie MkIIC Combo
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:57 pm 
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Hi..Can you guys tell me what the going price is for an original owner MK IIC Simuclass/Reverb 1x12 Creme Vinyal Combo in nice condition?
No EQ...and no +
but has a matching 1x12 extension cabinet.
Ive looked into upgrade at Mesa and its totaling quite a bit when added to this amp.
Please advise.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:07 pm 
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Oh oh..no responses.
Im somewhat out of touch and fear I may be slightly overpaying..and the fateful day is tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:17 pm 
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You'll sometimes wait a few days for response here, not very active.

With the IIC+ market, it seems to be all about graphic EQ and to a lesser extent Simul-class. It seems like the biggest driver is GEQ and amps without it don't sell for nearly as much. There are tons of sold listings on Reverb.com for non-GEQ IIC and IIC+s for under $2k, some as low as $1,500 for 60w IICs. I'm not sure how much more Simul-class might bring up the price though.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:25 am 
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Currently, the market is swamped with great amps. Also, there are fewer guitar players out there. If I say anything about a mesa mark amp without the graphic EQ, I’ll get slogged all day.

(OK I’ll just say it, the amps without the graphic EQ & + are totally worthless in my opinion.)

To those who don’t agree with me, good for you, get off my lawn!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:14 am 
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But how worthless..going market value? I have a MklV and I think the lead channel sounds a bit too processed/ artificial to me.Clean channel is as good as it gets I think.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:36 am 
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Markedman wrote:
Currently, the market is swamped with great amps. Also, there are fewer guitar players out there. If I say anything about a mesa mark amp without the graphic EQ, I’ll get slogged all day.

(OK I’ll just say it, the amps without the graphic EQ & + are totally worthless in my opinion.)


Nonsense.Not everyone who plays a mesa mark amp is into metallica etc.If you need that heavy bottom end scooped mid sound then yes the graphic is needed for that but worthless?You could always get a good EQ and stick it in the loop.

edit:Upon second reading I think this might be tongue in cheek right??


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:03 pm 
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Markedman wrote:
Currently, the market is swamped with great amps. Also, there are fewer guitar players out there. If I say anything about a mesa mark amp without the graphic EQ, I’ll get slogged all day.

(OK I’ll just say it, the amps without the graphic EQ & + are totally worthless in my opinion.)

To those who don’t agree with me, good for you, get off my lawn!



Now you see? This is why Markedman is one of my favs. I don't NECESSARILY agree with him but, I LOVE the way he says it! You have GOT to love that level of honesty!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:06 am 
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I paid $1600 for a very clean HRG IIC and had it modded.

I paid $2000 for a pretty clean DR IIC+.

I spend a lot of time playing my G C+s with the G turned off.

Getting it modded by Mike is worth it!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:14 am 
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I had Mike B. uprade an HR and a DRG. The DRG might be the best of my c+'s. It does add up sending the amp back to Mesa, shipping + mod + new caps + repairs. But it's well worth. The amp comes back sounding awesome. If I lived close to Mesa I'd have Mike B. work on the other 4 c+'s I own. If you did buy the amp I recommend changing the reverb tank even if the old one works.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:32 am 
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My Mark III does not have the EQ. If I wanted I could purchase a Mesa Five Band EQ, put it in the loop and have an EQ. If it is important to you factor the price of an EQ into the purchase price for a used amp.

Cheers Stephan


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:59 am 
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Thanks..some more questions.
* How about having them put the original Sylvania tubes in
there.?..I have the Original 4 tubes as well.Worth it?
*What about V1 PreAmp tube..should I get an NOS tube for that as well? What the hell..I've eaten pork, I might as well have a Heineken.
*Why should the Reverb tank be changed?
*Who made the Standard 12" Black Shadow Speaker for Mesa in early 1983 in MkllC? The Black Shadow EV was marked EV but other one not.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:36 pm 
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I would send the Sylvania tubes with the amp. My favorite preamp tubes are nos Chinese military. C+’s originally came with Tungsram 12ax7’s. The Chinese tubes are brighter and have a little more gain. The springs in the reverb tank get gunked up over the years. If the tank in your amp is original you should notice a difference with a new one. Eminence made the MS-12 speaker. My favorite speaker until I tried Celestion Redbacks. I have a vintage Mesa metal grill 4x12 loaded with Redbacks that I use with my wide chassis HR c+.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:43 pm 
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I was thinking to get new set of the STR415 and keep these as spares.The one set should last the rest of my life I think.
The Reverb Tank I have can't be cleaned with WD40 or something on to Springs?
Thanks again


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:04 pm 
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I just talked to Rich at Mesa. They still have STR-415’s. $250 for a pair. I never tried to clean the springs.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:36 am 
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Nick Athanasatos wrote:
Thanks..some more questions.
Who made the Standard 12" Black Shadow Speaker for Mesa in early 1983 in MkllC? The Black Shadow EV was marked EV but other one not.
Thanks


That should be a C-90, manufactured by Celestion.

Cheers Stephan


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