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 Post subject: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:48 pm 
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Greetings,..... EL34's in the outer sockets? Yay or nay? Thanks, James

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 Post subject: Re: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:41 am 
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I had EL34’s in my DR and DRG but now I prefer Sovtek 5881’s with nos Chinese 12ax7’s. The 5881’s tame some of the brightness.

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 Post subject: Re: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:30 pm 
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MESA branded Sylvania STR-416's are the way to go. Yes they are expensive and hard to find, but WELL worth it. Nothing compares in my opinion. I have a pair of Phillips 7581A's that do the job nicely, as well.

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 Post subject: Re: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:07 pm 
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Thanx for the replies.... I purchased 2 EL34's to try, first to try in my 2:90 based on a u tube demo, but when i got em , i put them in C+. Since the head is my starting point. After a few days, i put the original tubes back in head ( which are 415's... very old ) They seem to be the most reliable. I'm a picky sob, im always doin this , that and the other. Even tho the 415's are 20 + yrs. old, shud I worry? Peace to everyone, James

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 Post subject: Re: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:11 pm 
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Henz wrote:
Even tho the 415's are 20 + yrs. old, shud I worry? Peace to everyone, James

As long as the 415 works, age doesn't matter, they're probably better than anything you can buy, and as Joey says as well. the 416 is also the best EL34 in my experience. Other tubes just doesn't come close.

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 Post subject: Re: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:14 pm 
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Thanx for the reply. Yep , i will. The 415 s have always been there, reliable for me. Blessings, James

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 Post subject: Re: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:32 pm 
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the Mesa STR-416 was made by Sylvania (as were the 415's).
That said if you can find some old Sylvania EL-34's in the correct bias range get them as they are the same tube.
The beauty of the 416's is they give you the chime of an EL34 but seem to have the fullness and bottom end of the STR-415's (aka 6L6's).
They are simply amazing tubes!

After getting my first pair I was so stunned by how the C+ sounded I played through it using only Class-A for months.
I still love the way it sounds in Class-A with 416's/ Sylvania El-34's!


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 Post subject: Re: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:55 pm 
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Thanx for the reply. Are the EL34( 416's)( if i am understanding this correctly, the 416's are EL34's?) still on the market? Man, that sounds like thats what I need. I also usually only play in class A. Blessings to all, James

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 Post subject: Re: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:11 pm 
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Henz wrote:
Are the EL34( 416's)( if i am understanding this correctly, the 416's are EL34's?) still on the market?


Yes the Mesa StR-416's are relabeled Sylvania EL-34's. Same tune different label.
They haven't been made for years.
The only way to get them is to find and buy some used ones or find/ buy New Old Stock (NOS) tubes.

These are long lasting tubes (10,000 hour tube) so buying used shouldn't be of concerns.
Do your homework, ask the seller for whatever info they on on the tubes and you should be fine with a used pair.

I have two pair of NOS and they cost a pretty penny. :shock:
But those in my C+'s were bought used and have been going strong for a few years now.


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 Post subject: Re: MKIIc+ Tubes
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:28 pm 
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Thanx! If i find some , I am on it! Blessings, James

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