SamuelJ86 said:
Boogiebabies said:
this is a meager attempt to cash in on marketing hype.
Sounds like a massaged MK IV to me.
I would've thought that most of us boogie players out there would have a little more respect for the guys at mesa
Those of us who have been around on the boogie board for years respect the guys at Mesa immensely.
But respect doesn't mean taking any and everything to be the truth. We know when they are blowing smoke/ when there is marketing hype.
Like you say below "Mesa is a business". Sometimes marketing hype is what businesses do.
SamuelJ86 said:
Now everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I cannot get close to calling the JP2C a "meager" attempt at anything.
Then don't!
But until your knowledge and experience is up to par with BB's (Ed's) you don't have the slightest clue about what he's saying/ talking about.
SamuelJ86 said:
Mesa is a business, and they are trying to make money.
Like stated above sometimes 'marketing hype' is part of trying to make money.
SamuelJ86 said:
But their history speaks for itself. Great sounding, built like a tank, versatile amps.
You're preaching to the choir here Samuel. Nobody here is in doubt. WE ALL know this!
And for those of us here who have direct experience with a C+, we know the amazing sounding, responsive, and versatile amp that it is!
And we know it does these things in ways that no other Mesa amp has done since it's creation.
That's why there are all these "C+ modes (or whatever they are called) on newer Mesa amps. All trying to catch the magic of this very special and unique amp!
SamuelJ86 said:
Not meager attempts at making some easy money.
This is your naivety exposing itself. No one is claiming the design and production of the JP2C is or was easy.
But we know an attempt to cash in on marketing hype.
We are referring to the many references made regarding the C+ with many amps Mesa has available for sale these days. The hype started with the Mk-V.
Their "C+" channels, modes, (whatever you or they want to call them) on all these amps has never come close to making these amps sound or behave like what a real C+ does and can do.
SamuelJ86 said:
I guess you can call me naive
Sorry Sam but you are naive.
SamuelJ86 said:
but I belive most of what Petrucci says when he talks about his new amp. I think he speaks from the heart and obviously he doesn't back anything he doesn't play.
Great, good for you, believe what you want.
Heartfelt or not, do know how much Petrucci gets paid for his endorsement of the JP-2C?
SamuelJ86 said:
And the guys at mesa who made the originals are still there.
Yeah and many of us here know this as well. What's your point?
SamuelJ86 said:
They've helped build a great company and I don't think they're going to start letting meager attempts go out the door now.
You could really benefit from some research and reading of the 100's of posts and threads here on the board..... as well as some direct knowledge and experience.
SamuelJ86 said:
Sorry Boogiebabies, but I gotta check you here.
Gotta check BB? You'd be better off checking the 100's of insightful posts Ed has made here over many years which have benefited all of us!
He's one of the most knowledgeable individuals when it comes to Mesa Mark series amps. In particular the C+!!
LesterPaul1 said:
... Btw, I personally think Ed has plenty of respect for Mesa/ hell, he has owned em all and taught most of us everything we know
+100
I was defending the amp. It's a great amp. I read Boogiebabies post as a dis at the amp. It's not a meager amp and it's not a meager attempt at marketing. It's a great amp and its a great attempt at marketing. It sounds more like a mark V after a shiatsu anyway. :lol:
