Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

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Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

Post by ZAK » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:46 am

HI all !

I plan to record my first album with my MARK IV-A combo, A Dual Rectifier revG, mesa recto cab, marshall cab.
The problem is i need a more "rock'n'roll' sound than metal for 2 songs.
I want to blend Boogie with Marshall dynamic. I made some research and it seems to be good to use my MARK IV with a power amp like 9005 Marshall or EL34 50/50 or 100/100.

Do you try this mix ? Is it working ? what's the difference ?

Thanks! :D
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Rectifier 2 CH Revision G
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Re: Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

Post by bgh » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:35 am

I have not had any experience using my Mark IV through a power amp. I do however use EL34s in the outer slots and love it. I run 99% of the time in 'class A'. The EL34s are so nice and responsive for what we do that I very rarely use simul-class.

I find it easier to control breakup with the EL34s. I don't have quite as much headroom as I do in simul-class, but, given that the EL34s are 50% of the mix in simul-class, the loss in headroom is not all that noticable.
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Re: Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

Post by ZAK » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:13 am

Thanks for your answer; someone for comparing Mark IV EL34 and Mark IV+Marshall EL34 PA ?? :D
Mark IVa combo
Rectifier 2 CH Revision G
(with anomalies 16-8ohm/attached power cord) #5006

Marshall Vintage Modern 100w head
Marshall JMP1 preamp
Marshall 9005 P.A (=JCM800 P.A)
Ibanez Jem Signature 7wh

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Re: Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

Post by Audiokill » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:44 am

I slave a simulclass IIC+ (6L6 & el34) into the el34 power section of my 100 watt chupacabra (marshall jmp copy) to actually get MORE crunch and low end thump while dipping out some of the mid frequencies (I typically need to bring my 750 slider back up a bit to compensate). The result is just thunderous and punishing. Best metal tone I've ever gotten, and I highly recommend this setup.

However, if the mission is a rock n roll tone, I think the mark 4 does a better job on its own.
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Re: Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

Post by ZAK » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:54 am

i think you use it with Marshall cabs ?
Mark IVa combo
Rectifier 2 CH Revision G
(with anomalies 16-8ohm/attached power cord) #5006

Marshall Vintage Modern 100w head
Marshall JMP1 preamp
Marshall 9005 P.A (=JCM800 P.A)
Ibanez Jem Signature 7wh

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Re: Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

Post by Audiokill » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:03 am

I do use marshall cabs... loaded with V30s. One 4x12 for each amp, but I generally set the slave level knob so that the chupacabra's cab somewhat overpowers the mark 2's.
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Re: Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

Post by boola » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:06 am

I used my old MarkIV into a JMC900, it was great. Now I have a Quad preamp into a Marshall 9100 and it's even better! For me, Mesa preamp into Marshall poweramp is the ultimate setup. I highly recommend it!

As for cabs, I think a greenback loaded Marshall cab would be an excellent option.

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Re: Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

Post by ZAK » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:56 am

is it more midrange with the marshall PA ?
Mark IVa combo
Rectifier 2 CH Revision G
(with anomalies 16-8ohm/attached power cord) #5006

Marshall Vintage Modern 100w head
Marshall JMP1 preamp
Marshall 9005 P.A (=JCM800 P.A)
Ibanez Jem Signature 7wh

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Re: Mark IV + Marshall power amp EL34 ?

Post by boola » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:19 am

It will give you more 'Marshall mids'.

I really recommend a cab with greenback (G12M) speakers - this will give you lots of classic rock mids. If you can get a Marshall PA too, even better.

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