EQ for the Stiletto

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EQ for the Stiletto

Post by bpayne82 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:48 am

I don't know how many of you have tried this yet, but throwing an EQ in the loop of your Stiletto ACE will solve a lot of headaches and frustrations in terms of the Stiletto's high frequency issues. Besides turning down the Presence control on the amps EQ, throwing a EQ in the loop will yield great results. After many pedal purchases over the past year, both distortion and overdrive, the Empress ParaEQ ($250) has made all of the channels on my ACE very usable. Much more bottom end than ever before. Just throwing it out there. Check it out if you are getting frustrated with this amp.....oh also, definately do a speaker swap. I bought a Scumback M75 LHDC speaker for my 1x12. That will immediately yield some pretty nice results as well.
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by Riff Blister » Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:25 pm

Good choice on the Scumback M75-LHDC. That has to be a perfect fit for the ACE. Did you have Jim break it in for you (FBI)? They sound great right out of the box but I am going to to have it done with my next order.
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by rocksalt7 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:30 pm

+2 on the EQ in the loop....it's a tremendous help for shaping up the ACE!! I'm not running one right now because my 4x12 gets me what I need thus far, but if I need any more bottom at all, I've got a GE-7 sitting 2 feet away hooked up to my DC-2... :mrgreen:
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by srenkin » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:05 pm

Don't laugh, but instead of an EQ I'm using my Tech 21 Bass DI to shape the tone on my Ace 1x12. The Bass DI has treble and bass control plus drive, presence, and blend. Without changing the gain or tone of the amp, I'm able to switch from a modern rock tone to a great 80's style scooped-mid 4x12 cab tone with the blend at 12 o'clock, treble at 11 o'clock, bass at 2 o'clock, drive at 9 o'clock, and presence at 12 o'clock. Plenty of thump! It works for me.

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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by rocksalt7 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:18 pm

No laughing over here! I think thats a pretty good idea actually. I get the feeling you'd otherwise not be putting your Tech 21 to use at all. If it's working for you...great!!

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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by TTSTWO » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:36 am

srenkin wrote:Don't laugh, but instead of an EQ I'm using my Tech 21 Bass DI to shape the tone on my Ace 1x12. The Bass DI has treble and bass control plus drive, presence, and blend. Without changing the gain or tone of the amp, I'm able to switch from a modern rock tone to a great 80's style scooped-mid 4x12 cab tone with the blend at 12 o'clock, treble at 11 o'clock, bass at 2 o'clock, drive at 9 o'clock, and presence at 12 o'clock. Plenty of thump! It works for me.

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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by bpayne82 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:08 am

Riff Blister wrote:Good choice on the Scumback M75-LHDC. That has to be a perfect fit for the ACE. Did you have Jim break it in for you (FBI)? They sound great right out of the box but I am going to to have it done with my next order.
I had Jim do the FBI. Really nice guy. It did take a while to get the speaker in, but it really made a big difference in the tone. Every channel sounded much better after the speaker install. It's been over a year now, and my Stilleto seems to sound better and better :P
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by screamingdaisy » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:52 pm

The Stiletto only has high frequency issues when you turn the high frequencies up. If you keep them turned down it sounds normal.

It also has plenty of bottom end if you turn the bass up.

With Marshalls it's common to run the treble/presence low and bass way up... not sure why people have a hard time with this on a Mesa.

In my opinion/your mileage may vary.
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by noodles » Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:04 pm

I actually like how bright the Stiletto is. Listen to some of the best metal tones recorded, and they are always a lot brighter than you think they are. Having said that, not having three channels makes it harder to get a good solo tone, so I put an eq in the loop to bump up the lower mids, so I can dial up the rhythm tone I'm looking for.

I also use a 4x12 Stiletto bottom cab with C90s. I'm not a fan of V30s at all, since they're too upper mid brittle.
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by dmain » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:36 pm

Holy Crap picked up a ge-7 and threw it into the loop. for my strat it was incredible!
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by singsinthetimber » Sun May 20, 2012 8:02 pm

Just out of curiosity. What settings and type of guitars are you using? Amp settings and EQ pedal settings? Like what frequencies are you raising or lowering on the ep pedal in addition to your amp settings. :)

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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by dmain » Wed May 23, 2012 2:56 pm

I only use my Eq on my Strat. Its a bright guitar into a bright amp so taming the highs and bumping the low end up just a bit. On amp Treble 9/10 oclock, mids 11/noon, bass 3 oclock. a little less mids on channel 2. I tweak a little with different guitars but thats pretty normal. Masters at noonish and control volume with output knob
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by Paulie » Thu May 24, 2012 2:14 pm

Like dmain, I also use a strat. I find that I have to back the tone knob to help tame the highs. But (when I'm not being lazy) I do use an M-108 in the loop from time to time.
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by Elbowselbows » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:06 am

Presence 2:00
Bass 2:00
Mid 2:00
Treb 9:00 - 10:00
Gain 3:00

tite gain or fluid gain

Sounds good with V30's and wgs g12h's in a 4x12. thick and bassy with bite.
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Re: EQ for the Stiletto

Post by TTSTWO » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:25 pm

I use an MXR 10 band EQ in the loop of my Stage 1, absolute necessity with the Stage 1 IMO. It sound boxey and cold without it.

I'd like to hear a Stage 2 without an EQ in the loop.
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