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First post- noob to board questions

Post by jglover51 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:30 am

I just bought my first Mesa- A Stiletto Ace 1x12. I love the amp, but I get excessive noise on the gain channel. I set the pre gain to noon on the "Fluid Drive" setting and I get all this noise that I can only describe as "white noise" or the sound of static, like you're in between stations on an AM radio. I don't notice the noise on the clean. The noise also remains when my guitar's volume is turned all the way down. I tried to lower the gain, but I'd like to have the option of using more gain (possibly turn it up to 2 o'clock max).

I owned a Rivera Fandango, Blues jr., Line 6 Vetta (ughhh) and none of them were this noisy, even at higher gain settings.

A friend suggested I try the Mesa SPAX7's in the first 3 pre stages to cut back the noise. I'm also considering buying an Ebtech Hum X or Boss noise suppressor pedal to kill this noise..

Also, I'm thinking of buying an extension cab to open the sound up; I guess I'm gonna have to buy the Mesa ext cab since the color/grill are unique (green/basket grill).

Yes, I'm a noob!! I really would appreciate any thoughts or advice on either or both areas.

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Post by scottieL » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:38 am

if you can hear that noise over your playing, it's probably the tubes. If your playing can drown it out, its just your amp working hard. cutting off the signal with a volume pedal in front of the amp should mitigate the problem if you need silent breaks live.
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Post by srf399 » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:04 pm

My Deuce II doesn;t have that problem at all. I have relatively hot pickups and still not a problem. I'd say get a new set of tubes and it'll be rectified..... pardon the pun.
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Post by surferdeac » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:31 pm

Morley Hum eliminator works well for me to eliminate floor noise in my guitar signal. I actually use it in between my gmajor racmount and my amps effects loop and it makes a noticeable difference in excessive floor noise. I got this Idea from looking at Andy Timmons Rig at a clinic actually. I have a Ace Head on order and a 2x12 rectifier cab to go with it. I am sure the SpaX7's would help as well. I myself was considering a set of tubes from Bob on his EURotube site.
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Post by Silverwulf » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:13 pm

Probably a tube issue. My favorite tubes were JJ ECC83's in the preamp (high gains in V1 - V3) and JJ EL34L's in the power amp of the ACE's I had. I also use a BOSS NS-2 last in my chain with all amps, and I have no noise issue with any of them. They're all dead silent.
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Post by jglover51 » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:39 am

Silverwulf wrote:Probably a tube issue. My favorite tubes were JJ ECC83's in the preamp (high gains in V1 - V3) and JJ EL34L's in the power amp of the ACE's I had. I also use a BOSS NS-2 last in my chain with all amps, and I have no noise issue with any of them. They're all dead silent.

You're exactly right; that's what it was. I switched my V1 tube (bad tube) with the V5 (good tube) and there was no more noise save the ground loop buzz on the gain channel, which is pretty normal. I did notice a drop in the bass response, which I'm sure will be fixed when I retube with JJ's. The amp sounds great now as is; I can't wait to hear how good it will sound with the JJ's!

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