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Roadster - out of production

Post by Eevil » Sun May 07, 2017 2:10 pm

So I was just browsing the net and went to mesa page to find out the Roadster is out of production. Well... not so big surprise to keep the product portfolio somehow streamlined and the success of the pocket amps may diminish the need for this kind of monsters.

Yet it is still sad day to find out that neither of my amps is not in production anymore :roll: am I getting old or what?... well... maybe :)
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by Given To Fly » Mon May 08, 2017 3:08 am

I have a Roadster 2x12 Combo and feel no sadness that it was discontinued. It is not the type of amp you stock up on because one is usually enough. :lol: I love that amp though and will hopefully enjoy it for years to come!
I trust Mesa knows what they are doing and their future will continue to be bright.

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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by tbonesullivan » Mon May 08, 2017 11:45 am

There have been many iterations of the Rectifier series that are no longer in production, and there will most likely be more in the future, as the marketplace changes. Also, some amplifiers, such as the Maverick, Rect-o-Verb, Tremo-O-Verb, don't have as much mass appeal, and they probably noted sales decline, so they moved onto a different specialized version of the rectifier series.
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by screamingdaisy » Mon May 08, 2017 9:20 pm

I'm surprised they discontinued the Roadster and kept the Road King.
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by Given To Fly » Mon May 08, 2017 10:34 pm

screamingdaisy wrote:I'm surprised they discontinued the Roadster and kept the Road King.
I wonder how far in advance the decision to discontinue an amp is made? I suppose we could always ask Mesa. :shock:
The Road King does have its own line of speaker cabinets which are used by all three versions of the Road King. I imagine that makes everything surrounding that amp a little more complicated.
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by Eevil » Mon May 08, 2017 10:35 pm

screamingdaisy wrote:I'm surprised they discontinued the Roadster and kept the Road King.
Maybe the RK gets price drop :lol:

Time to buy another Roadster for stereo setup ;)
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by Eevil » Mon May 08, 2017 10:37 pm

Given To Fly wrote:
screamingdaisy wrote:I'm surprised they discontinued the Roadster and kept the Road King.
I wonder how far in advance the decision to discontinue an amp is made? I suppose we could always ask Mesa. :shock:
The Road King does have its own line of speaker cabinets which are used by all three versions of the Road King. I imagine that makes everything surrounding that amp a little more complicated.
...and Roadster is in a way poor man's Road King..
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by silentbob » Wed May 10, 2017 11:30 am

Eevil wrote:So I was just browsing the net and went to mesa page to find out the Roadster is out of production. Well... not so big surprise to keep the product portfolio somehow streamlined and the success of the pocket amps may diminish the need for this kind of monsters.

Yet it is still sad day to find out that neither of my amps is not in production anymore :roll: am I getting old or what?... well... maybe :)
I don't think it's surprising or related to the success of the smaller amps at all. The pocket amps don't have anywhere near the flexibility of the Roadster, so it's unlikely that anyone wanting/needing what a Roadster has to offer would be satisfied with one of the smaller amps.

The minimal differences between the Roadster and Road King make eliminating one of them a logical decision in an environment where big amp purchases are declining. Obviously, the flagship product with unique options isn't likely to be the one cut in that situation.

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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by dlpasco » Wed May 10, 2017 2:01 pm

tbonesullivan wrote:There have been many iterations of the Rectifier series that are no longer in production, and there will most likely be more in the future, as the marketplace changes. Also, some amplifiers, such as the Maverick, Rect-o-Verb, Tremo-O-Verb, don't have as much mass appeal, and they probably noted sales decline, so they moved onto a different specialized version of the rectifier series.
This is a REALY good point. I'm still pretty stunned, though - most of the people that I know that have Roadsters adore them.

That said, I had the option to vote with my dollars and bought a JP-2C and a Triple Crown instead of a Roadster myself. Maybe the sales have just been cannibalized by their other models to the point where it made more sense to move on and focus on where the demand is.
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by tbonesullivan » Wed May 10, 2017 3:02 pm

Also there is the secondary market to consider. I mean, I've never bought a new Mesa Boogie amplifier. most of my guitars were purchased used. That can always be a consideration, combined with the new and exciting amps they have put out.

Mesa Boogie is the progressive rock of the amp market. They are always looking for ways to improve and redesign their amplifiers, and pack them full of features. You don't see many of the other major makers or boutique makers doing that either. Many are still obsessed with the idea of the perfect new VINTAGE style amplifier. Less controls are better, and that whole philosophy.

I'd much rather have a versatile amp that sounds great. Even Mesa Boogie's perceived "low end" offerings still have tons of features. The Express series all have multiple voicings on each channel, the legendary graphic EQ, and the ability to change out put power and run the amp in class A single-ended mode.

My biggest issue with buying a new mesa boogie is that I simply could not decide which one to get. That and MIDI controls. Never been able to wrap my head around those.
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by screamingdaisy » Wed May 10, 2017 7:07 pm

Given To Fly wrote:
screamingdaisy wrote:I'm surprised they discontinued the Roadster and kept the Road King.
I wonder how far in advance the decision to discontinue an amp is made? I suppose we could always ask Mesa. :shock:
The Road King does have its own line of speaker cabinets which are used by all three versions of the Road King. I imagine that makes everything surrounding that amp a little more complicated.
From what I understand, because Mesa's are typically made to order they'll keep making something until they run out of parts. I suppose lead time to discontinue depends on how fast they were consuming parts.

With regard to the RK, I've seen very few out in the wild or on the internet... and I think I've only ever seen one or two people on the internet who actually got the matching cab. If anything, the feature set on the Roadster is more inline with what people would actually use, which is probably why it became popular.

But, from what I've been reading the musical instrument industry is taking a sh*tkicking right now. The baby boom is going bust and many millennials came of age post MTV. Mesa has to adapt to a changing market place, and in my particular scene I'm not seeing a whole lot of 100w amps and 4x12s. Having the Dual, Triple, Roadster and RK all trying to take a bite out of that same market is pretty redundant.

That said, I'd love to see a three or four channel Mini-Recto.... or a one channel Mini-Recto with programmable settings.
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by silentbob » Wed May 10, 2017 7:53 pm

screamingdaisy wrote:
Given To Fly wrote:
screamingdaisy wrote:or a one channel Mini-Recto with programmable settings.
Mini-Recto with Tri-Axis level flexibility.

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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by Nick79 » Thu May 11, 2017 1:58 pm

A 4 channel mini Recto would be my ideal amp.

Regarding the Roadster, i've never even seen one in the flesh. Here in the UK Mesa's just aren't that common. I gig a lot, and also go to watch a lot of bands, and it's very rare that i see anyone using a Mesa. If i do it's usually a MK of some type or a big Rectifier.

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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by screamingdaisy » Thu May 11, 2017 7:35 pm

Nick79 wrote:A 4 channel mini Recto would be my ideal amp.

Regarding the Roadster, i've never even seen one in the flesh. Here in the UK Mesa's just aren't that common. I gig a lot, and also go to watch a lot of bands, and it's very rare that i see anyone using a Mesa. If i do it's usually a MK of some type or a big Rectifier.
I think the Roadsters are more common in North America because they're still somewhat affordable. I think I paid about 2g for mine.
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Re: Roadster - out of production

Post by Nick79 » Fri May 12, 2017 9:59 am

That would probably be why. Over here anything with a Mesa badge is big money. Current retail for a Roadster 2x12 combo is £3,350 - That's about $4300.

Mini Rec's are £1200 new, i bought used and paid £500, which in Mesa land is a bargain.
A buddy of mine bought a 40w combo brand new for less than that, he just couldn't understand why i paid more for a lower watt head - Until he heard it :lol:

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