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I am playing around with my Triaxis, and want to get a good recto tone. HOWEVER, I don't really know what that means. I have heard a few recordings, and have a "recto" patch on my PSA-1, but I don't REALLY know how they sound.

Can anybody point me to a recording of a great recto hard rock/metal tone that really captures what the rectifier is about? Bonus points for the amp by itself and not buried in the mix or overly EQ'd.

Thanks!
 
This style of music has died down in recent years, but back then this is what recto tone was about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn496_tgqIk

I would also point towards old Tool from the 90's, and Incubus from the late 90's and early 2000's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FcCLcxctXo


Then of course, in recent years, bands went towards tightening up the sound with pedals to play faster rhythms. Others here can help you better with that than me.
 
Here's something I dialled in on the TriAxis (starts at 8:08), but I admit this sound is a little fizzy and could use some tweaking. And some volume too, Recto stuff seems to sound better when it's pushing some air.

I agree about fluff191, he gets that quintessential tone down pretty good.
 
Wow thanks for the kind words guys!

And that Linkin Park clip was done using a Randall Treadplate module :wink:
 
that linkin park clip sounds like the quintessential recto tone to me.

also, both of the guitarists in this band play rectos with, to my knowledge almost no effects whatsoever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwsIoZt6vGU




also these guys. One plays a recto the other a stilleto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpG3BxRctQ4








Neither band is likely to be popular around this forum, but they are recto tones.....
 
I really think that is open to interpretation, I agree with domct203, Fluff has a great tone. and rather than pointing you to more over produced crappy band :) check out a few of my fav's

Youtube Botch 061502, it was their final show, all be it live it is a good represntation of riffs and leads on a dual rec. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8anYoaptSo

And of course the all mighty Dillinger Escape Plan. Here Ben talks about his live gear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHdzQBp0CIo&feature=related
 
There are many interpretations of the Recto tone, as they are so versatile. Heck, even Allan Holdsworth played one, and country players have used Rectos as well...
 
That song by bowling for soup was when they both recto back then, now the lead singer plays a stiletto and the big guy still plays the recto.

As to All time low, I think that is one of the greatest recto tones, both alex and jack play a recto and stiletto in their rigs, mostly there heavy tone is the recto and they tend to use the stiletto's for lead playing or lighter stuff or the original album which they played marshalls.

But as some have said, everyone has a different defiintion of the recto tone, but, bands that defined it where like Korn, Limp Bizkit, creed, nickleback, then punk bands embraced it and groups like new found glory, fall out boy and all time low all got similar tone.

kick6 said:
that linkin park clip sounds like the quintessential recto tone to me.

also, both of the guitarists in this band play rectos with, to my knowledge almost no effects whatsoever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwsIoZt6vGU




also these guys. One plays a recto the other a stilleto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpG3BxRctQ4








Neither band is likely to be popular around this forum, but they are recto tones.....
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That is not the greatest recto tone the linkin park guy has there, check out earlier live music from then when they still used recto's, I think they switched over sometime around 2007 or 2008 to the randall. and as to tool he always mixed 2 to 3 amps at a time so he is not the best example, and the incubus guitarist used a modified tremoverb head and later two modified tremoverb 2x12 combos.

Elpelotero said:
This style of music has died down in recent years, but back then this is what recto tone was about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn496_tgqIk

I would also point towards old Tool from the 90's, and Incubus from the late 90's and early 2000's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FcCLcxctXo


Then of course, in recent years, bands went towards tightening up the sound with pedals to play faster rhythms. Others here can help you better with that than me.
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I've seen a couple country bands that used the raw modes for a great raunchy crunch. Then on the other end Hetfield used to use a two channel triple recto before he got the Diezel stuff.
 
fluff191 said:
Wow thanks for the kind words guys!

And that Linkin Park clip was done using a Randall Treadplate module :wink:
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You may be right, but I did a little research and I think he picked up the Randall rig 3 years later for their 2007 album tour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uo5E6dtyIs

The concert footage is from 2004. Who cares really though? It's a killer, fat tone that I'm sure his techs can get out of any rig. I've never been able to get that kind of sound from my amps. The Incubus sound is a lot more achievable. Just plug in to an old rec and go.
 
I love this clip from that show, to me this is the recto tone, I cant remember if they used dual's or triples, I want to say duals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKdzupDKbv4

How they get that ground sound is a great sound man that does some more eq'ing at the board and alot of wattage!

Elpelotero said:
fluff191 said:
Wow thanks for the kind words guys!

And that Linkin Park clip was done using a Randall Treadplate module :wink:
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You may be right, but I did a little research and I think he picked up the Randall rig 3 years later for their 2007 album tour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uo5E6dtyIs

The concert footage is from 2004. Who cares really though? It's a killer, fat tone that I'm sure his techs can get out of any rig. I've never been able to get that kind of sound from my amps. The Incubus sound is a lot more achievable. Just plug in to an old rec and go.
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Here is another good example of linkin park, this was from 2001 before they went to crazy with board EQ, notice the rec tone is not as treble and refined as the 2004 concert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FKBJHnYyTk
 
siggy14 said:
But as some have said, everyone has a different defiintion of the recto tone, but, bands that defined it where like Korn, Limp Bizkit, creed, nickleback, then punk bands embraced it and groups like new found glory, fall out boy and all time low all got similar tone.
siggy14 said:
Don't really agree with that statement. First time I saw a recto live was The Joykiller in '93-'94, Then we played with Blank 77 in '95 and they were using one. Doubt either of those guys were influenced by the bands you mentioned.
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We are talking the recto sound, not what bands influenced other recto players, first major recording artist recto users I can remember was candlebox, however their tone was not what became known as the recto tone.

I am sure there were plenty of bands that people hardley new about like the two you mentioned before Limp and Korn that used recto's, but when it comes to the recto tone it was nu-metal that bought the recto tone into the spotlight.

So actually my statement holds true, everyone has a different idea of what the recto tone is, yours is those two bands you mentioned, mine as well as about 80 to 90% of the rest of the population associated recto's with nu-metal tone.

halfdriven said:
siggy14 said:
But as some have said, everyone has a different defiintion of the recto tone, but, bands that defined it where like Korn, Limp Bizkit, creed, nickleback, then punk bands embraced it and groups like new found glory, fall out boy and all time low all got similar tone.
siggy14 said:
Don't really agree with that statement. First time I saw a recto live was The Joykiller in '93-'94, Then we played with Blank 77 in '95 and they were using one. Doubt either of those guys were influenced by the bands you mentioned.
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Oh i am not upset, just debating with you, there is no argument that it is nu-metal which made the recto so popular, it was great for the amp but also hurt the amp, because everyone still see's the recto as a heavy metal amp only, when everyone from punk to country, hell I saw james brown and his guitarist was using a 2 channel triple. Recto's are very versitile amps.

But I will agree with you, there were many grunge and punk bands before nu-metal that used recto's and still do to this day.

halfdriven said:
calm down dude, think you missed my point. I was referencing this "then punk bands embraced it "
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