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Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by Great Ant » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:07 am

Do you guys think that a 25 watt will be loud enough to gig with two drummers. Live wise I'll be mic'd, but it's more rehearsals that I'd be worried about. I ask because i play with two drummers and It's my first band and I'm still learning about band dynamics.
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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by BostonRedSox » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:01 am

If you have it cranked and like the gain tones with it blasting, then yes, it will do fine with a loud drummer in a practice situation. Just don't expect to have any clean tones available. In terms of gigs, most places I play have PA systems. If you gig in places with the same, then you can just have them mic you up. This way, you'll have both, cleans AND gain tones at your pleasure.

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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by BenoA » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:54 am

BostonRedSox wrote: In terms of gigs, most places I play have PA systems. If you gig in places with the same, then you can just have them mic you up. This way, you'll have both, cleans AND gain tones at your pleasure.
+1

I've gigged with a 40 watts combo, a 50 watts half stack and even a 120 watts full stack... Never I could cranck any of these amps to our rehearsal volume. NEVER.

I bet the upcoming mini recto will be loud enough to 99% bar gigs out there.

As BostonRedSox said above, most places out there have PA systems. I have yet to meet a soundman that will let you cranck your amp onstage and then mic it. They may even ask you to turn around your cab or put a blancket over it.
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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by Rkorn » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:21 am

I never used my MV on 90W mode live!!! So, i bet the answer is Yes!!
I bet this damn thing will sound great!!!

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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by ned » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:51 am

Let the PA do the work and put some guitar in your monitor.

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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by BenoA » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:56 pm

ned wrote:Let the PA do the work and put some guitar in your monitor.
Could not have said it better. +1 :D
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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by kdorsey » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:02 pm

ned wrote:Let the PA do the work and put some guitar in your monitor.
In a perfect world, yes. But in most small bar venues only drums and vocals go in the mix for us. The guitars self amplify, and the degree of that changes from venue to venue. Most times we're standing right on top of our gear. But a 20W head cranked would probably be fine...especially if you push it thru a 2x12 or 4x12 cab.
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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by mikey383 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:28 pm

kdorsey wrote:
ned wrote:Let the PA do the work and put some guitar in your monitor.
In a perfect world, yes. But in most small bar venues only drums and vocals go in the mix for us. The guitars self amplify, and the degree of that changes from venue to venue. Most times we're standing right on top of our gear. But a 20W head cranked would probably be fine...especially if you push it thru a 2x12 or 4x12 cab.
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Even the small bar gigs I played had a mic on the guitars.

Nothing like having part of the band come through the PA, and the rest from the stage. :roll:
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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by domct203 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:03 pm

I've played a very few gigs where just the vocals were in the PA, but those were in places small enough for a 25W amp.

Most places worth playing should have a PA to put the guitars in.

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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by cheameup » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:40 pm

like most others ..for sure

i've never done a gig that the bass and guitars werent through the PA . and 25w can be loud as hell anyway


my mates AC30 is friggen loud

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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by YellowJacket » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:21 am

FWIW, I have need of the 90watt mode on my Electra Dyne. To create half the loudness on an amp, you have to cut the power by 10 fold. So a 100watt amp sounds twice as loud as a 10watt amp. 25 watts is only marginally quieter than 45 watts and I don't turn my 'Dyne up above 8:30 live on the master. If you are worried about being heard, play though a 4 x 12. Those are plenty loud!!

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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by ned » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:11 am

Bass frequencies are omni-directional so at a small venue a bass amp can carry. But guitar speakers are very directional, not putting the guitar in the PA will create a bad mix for everyone not standing in front of the guitar amp.

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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by BostonRedSox » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:51 pm

Vox AC30 should be louder. Those are class A 30 watts! Which are a lot louder than class A/B 30 watts.

You'll be fine for gigging. Just don't expect great clean headroom. For practices though, you might have some trouble being heard.

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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by Deathf***ingmetal » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:06 am

Hey guys, thank you all for providing me with enough arguments to justify my next birthday present... :lol: :lol:
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Re: Mini Rec big enough to gig?

Post by BenoA » Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:50 pm

After 2 rehearsals with the Mini, I can confirm: The Mini Rectifier is loud enough :mrgreen:

Even on 10 watts mode on the Modern channel.
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