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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:44 pm 
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oh man i cant wait to get home from my vaca and try this... it actually makes sense which makes me hate myself for not thinking of it before. good work echoes

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:50 pm 
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got home today and tried it.... what a huge discovery for Roadster owners, the switching is so quick and paired with the rg-16 i'm in switching heaven

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:40 pm 
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This sounds like a must-try for me... set my Roadster aside for the Trem-O-Verb. Thanks for the info! Will check it out and get back. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:05 pm 
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I guess I'm lucky... got my Roadster last saturday and it changes the channels without any lag...

But....

echoes420 wrote:
Couple this with cycling through the channels whilst in standby to eliminate the "pop" and you are ready to rule the road!


Doesn't worked for me...
I cycled the channels in standby, but it still poped up a litlle bit when i changed the channels on high volumes....

Did I do something wrong?

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:46 pm 
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.DuFF. wrote:
I guess I'm lucky... got my Roadster last saturday and it changes the channels without any lag...

But....

echoes420 wrote:
Couple this with cycling through the channels whilst in standby to eliminate the "pop" and you are ready to rule the road!


Doesn't worked for me...
I cycled the channels in standby, but it still poped up a litlle bit when i changed the channels on high volumes....

Did I do something wrong?


Effects loop, maybe? My delay pedal amplifies the slight pop between the channels making it much more pronounced. Zero pop when its bypassed.

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:31 am 
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minus wrote:
Effects loop, maybe? My delay pedal amplifies the slight pop between the channels making it much more pronounced. Zero pop when its bypassed.


I have no pedals on the loop... just a Korg Pitchblack tuner in the Tuner Out.
I'll try hard bypassing the entire loop circuit (using that switch on the rear) to test the amp totally raw...

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:37 pm 
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Laskyman wrote:
You know- I always had the reverb "on" even though I never dialed any in on channels 3 and 4....that could explain why I never had any lag...

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:13 pm 
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I noticed on page 15 of the roadster manual it reads
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It is normal to experience approximately 1-2 seconds of delay before the REVERB is mixed with the dry signal after switching the REVERB or Channels. This intentional built-in delay prevents both switching noise from the hard bypass relays used to isolate the pure dry signal from the effected REVERB signal, and the prior Channels sound coming through the REVERB in the current Channel when switching. At first this may seem strange, but after a couple minutes in real world situations you will see that it is preferable to the embarrassing alternative of a loud overdriven crunch chord drowning out your beautiful clean passage in the middle of a breakdown


So it isn't a bug it's a feature?

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:14 pm 
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I believe they are talking about the delay on the sound of the reverb mixing itself back in... which is to be expected if you ask me.

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:30 am 
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Hahaha. I always have my reverb on, anyway. I guess that's why I haven't had a problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:53 am 
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I never knew Roadsters had a lag problem, luckily I never have reverb off on anything. I always need even the slightest amount. Good info to know anyway as I was planning on buying a Roadster head this summer.


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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:21 am 
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iceman wrote:
I noticed on page 15 of the roadster manual it reads
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It is normal to experience approximately 1-2 seconds of delay before the REVERB is mixed with the dry signal after switching the REVERB or Channels. This intentional built-in delay prevents both switching noise from the hard bypass relays used to isolate the pure dry signal from the effected REVERB signal, and the prior Channels sound coming through the REVERB in the current Channel when switching. At first this may seem strange, but after a couple minutes in real world situations you will see that it is preferable to the embarrassing alternative of a loud overdriven crunch chord drowning out your beautiful clean passage in the middle of a breakdown


So it isn't a bug it's a feature?


It can be a feature that many people enjoy. Several manufacturers such as Eventide themselves have a DSP option on their stompbox and rack processing units (AFAIK) to allow only the dry signal to come through after you turn on bypass, so that your sea of wet signals don't come through. On the other hand, they also offer the DSP+FX option to have the effect trail at the end along with the dry signal after you turn on the bypass. I hope that makes senses...

Also, they have the killdry option which simulate the reverse of that, whereby the dry signal gets cut out immediately after you turn off the effect, only leaving the wet signal to trail at the end...


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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:58 am 
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my Roadster is still popping when switching tuner out :?

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:22 pm 
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Does this apply to the Road King II as well? I do the channel cycle thing and I don't have any pop after that. I never really noticed the lab before. I ususally stay on one channel for the entire song and then switch in between. I am also doing the RJM Mini Amp Gizmo to switch my channels so that should keep it quiet. I am using the Line 6 M9 to trigger the Gizmo. Smooth and Sweet. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Roadster lag fix
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:34 pm 
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LithiumZero wrote:
Well that explains why I didn't see the problem. Mine has always been on but only dialed up on channels 1 & 2.

Same here.

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