Best Current EL34's?

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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by Adambomb » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:17 pm

fjs1962 wrote:I've been told the Mesa 447 is a tested, rebranded Sovtek EL34EH. So if you have EHs that sound different from 447s there's probably a difference in current draw between the two pairs, or one pair is more worn than the other.
So the Mesa 447 EL34's are Electro Harmonix EL34's (same tube)? Yea the EH's have some hours on them and the Mesa's are brand new. So in other words their both made by Sovtek? Was wondering about that.

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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by Chester » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:27 am

Chester wrote:I use =C='s usually, but am about to order some GT EL34M's which have a lovely mid and recessed trebble for my MKV

I agree it does not need more ice pick topend!
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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by R_ADKINS80 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:48 pm

The mesa's are a sovtek wxt+. While made in the same factory as the EH they sound NOTHING alike. Tungsols are made in the same factory too, again nothing alike. If that were the case then there'd be no reason to spend extra on tungsols. I have checked both el34 with my bias probe and they draw the same amount of plate current without touching the bias pot. My EH EL34 have as much bottom end as my mesa 6L6, but alot tighter and more aggressive.
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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by fjs1962 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:30 pm

R_ADKINS80 wrote:The mesa's are a sovtek wxt+. While made in the same factory as the EH they sound NOTHING alike. Tungsols are made in the same factory too, again nothing alike. If that were the case then there'd be no reason to spend extra on tungsols. I have checked both el34 with my bias probe and they draw the same amount of plate current without touching the bias pot. My EH EL34 have as much bottom end as my mesa 6L6, but alot tighter and more aggressive.
Are you sure the Mesa 447s are wxt+ and not the EH? I could have sworn they told me the tube they use for the 447s are the same tube as the EH, but it's been a couple of years back.

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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by R_ADKINS80 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:41 am

Rich at Mesa told me they were the Sovtek tube.
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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by fjs1962 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:32 pm

R_ADKINS80 wrote:Rich at Mesa told me they were the Sovtek tube.
I just wonder if they didn't change over to the EH at some point, especially since it seems the wxt isn't available anymore. I checked the couple of spare 447s I have in the shop right now and I have two different tubes. The build is similar, and both are definitely from the Reflector plant, but they aren't exactly the same. One is marked "GRN" and has the smaller getter like I've seen on the wxt, the other is marked "GRY" and has the larger getter like I've seen on EHs.

I guess I better check with Rich or Shawn this week and see what the current tube is. I'd hate to be telling my customers to use the Mesa tube if they want the EH, only to find out it's really the wxt! :)

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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by R_ADKINS80 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:13 pm

exact opposite on mine lol....my EH has a small halo and my mesa has a large halo.
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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by JCDenton6 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:47 am

I currently have Svetlana EL34's in my Triple that I think are on their last legs. They used to be crunchy as hell and quite aggressive.

I might retube with these again but I was wondering if anyone else used them and if they can compare them to Tung Sol, EH and Winged "C" EL34's
Any verdict on JJ E34L's, (not EL34's) ? I'm basically looking for the most aggressive 34's.
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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by R_ADKINS80 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:59 am

The most Aggressive el34 vote, for me, definitely goes to either the EH or the JJ el34L. With the JJ bei g just a bit darker, to my ears. Just depends on the mood I'm after. Both slay in a rectifier.
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Re: Best Current EL34's?

Post by Elbowselbows » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:26 pm

I was recommended the ruby el34stbr and they kill it in a stiletto, very aggressive, they don't break up as loosely as the stock Mesa 447's that where in there, but that could be a bias thing I think.

Did you come to any conclusions??
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