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Pedal Board Setup Question..

Post by mccart125 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:44 pm

Below are pics of my rig as of now.. Right now I am running the ED and Dark Terror in ABY.

Signal chain is:
Wah --- Flux Drive --- OCD --- into Dark Terror --- into Dyne

The rest of my delay and reverb is going to the Dyne's effects loop via mono..

I did this since I dont use the DT all of the time just when I need some more crunch/gain..

Would it be better to use the digital outs instead of mono??

Any suggestions would be helpful.

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Re: Pedal Board Setup Question..

Post by elvis » Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:30 pm

You need more gain than OCD + Flux Drive + Dyne? Hard to imagine.

I'm not sure what you mean by using the digital outs, but why not switch between the Terror and Dyne preamps, but use both power amps in stereo? Does the DT have an FX loop? If it does, you are home free.
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Re: Pedal Board Setup Question..

Post by mccart125 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:30 pm

Sorry. I meant stereo, not digital..

How do I configure?
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Re: Pedal Board Setup Question..

Post by elvis » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:14 pm

You would need an A/B Looper switch like this:
http://www.loop-master.com/product_info ... cts_id=264

Guitar -> AB Loop IN
AB Loop Send 1 -> Dyne Input
Dyne FX Send -> AB Loop Return 1
AB Loop Send 2 -> Terror Input
Terror FX Send -> AB Loop Return 2
AB Loop Out -> Reverb Mono In

Reverb L Out -> Delay L In
Reverb R Out -> Delay R in
OR
Reverb Mono Out -> Delay Mono In

Delay R out -> Dyne FX Return
Delay L out -> Terror FX Return

The loop pedal will choose between Dyne and Terror preamp, but both power amps will be on always. Possible problems: If terror FX loop is parallel instead of series, you will always get terror preamp bleeding into terror output. If terror drive is largely from its preamp overdriving its power amp, you will get a difference in tone and drive this way. Could be good, could be... less good.

Easy enough to try without the loop switch.

Guitar -> Dyne in
Dyne FX Send -> Reverb in
Reverb L Out -> Delay L In
Reverb R Out -> Delay R in
OR
Reverb Mono Out -> Delay Mono In

Delay R out -> Dyne FX Return
Delay L out -> Terror FX Return
Plug a patch cable into terror FX send in case that is a switch jack. Don't plug the other end into anything.

Sound OK? Try

Guitar -> Terror in
Terror FX Send -> Reverb in
Reverb L Out -> Delay L In
Reverb R Out -> Delay R in
OR
Reverb Mono Out -> Delay Mono In

Delay R out -> Dyne FX Return
Delay L out -> Terror FX Return
Plug a patch cable into Dyne FX send in case that is a switch jack
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Re: Pedal Board Setup Question..

Post by mccart125 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:10 pm

Great description.. Thanks!

But I am trying to get it to work with my Radial ABY.

I tried that last two examples and it isnt working.

Sorry. This should be easy but I cant wrap my mind around it.

Thanks again.
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Re: Pedal Board Setup Question..

Post by elvis » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:27 pm

The two examples at the end won;t allow for switching, but will at least let you know if the two different amps will work together at all.

An ABY is not going to work because it only switches the amp preamp inputs, but not the outputs. It needs to be an AB loop.
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Re: Pedal Board Setup Question..

Post by mccart125 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:25 pm

Yea they wont work..

OK. Thanks Elvis. Appreciate the time spent.

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